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Smart Consumner

Guest
the store does not have the option to sell or not sell the items

the store does not enter into an agreement with the manufacturer.

the corporation does this on behalf of all stores.

the store has to stock the items that are advertised.


Boy, you sure do seem to know a lot about the inner workings of a canadian tire store!


actually i know sweet fuck all about the inner workings of a canadian tire store.


Boy, you sure do have a lot to say on a subject you know SFA about!


Then again, that's been your history all along. Lots to say, SFA to back it up.


i know plenty about the inner workings of the legal system specifically as it relates to consumer law and the rights of consumers and sellers.

Funny - this seems to be yet another of the many areas in which you know sweet f*ck all!


I haven't read everything from ct-me postings but he seems to understand the business and the financial aspects quite well

Sounds like buness and finance also needs to be added to your SFA list!

just my two cents

With inflation, that also is worth exactly SFA.
 

CT Challenger

New member
the store does not have the option to sell or not sell the items and the store does not enter into an agreement with the manufacturer. the corporation does this on behalf of all stores. the store has to stock the items that are advertised.

I don't care whether the store made the stupid arrangement, or the corporation made the stupid arrangement.

Walmart and Costco don't let their suppliers push them around like scared little school girls.

As the customer, I just want them to sell me something that works, and give me my money back if it doesn't. The store owner and the corporation all need to get their ducks in a row & fix this, and not try to dump it in my lap to deal with.

Plus trying to disguise the whole thing as a "warranty" issue - right up until the customer drags the crap back to the store, then gets the big surprise on "no refund, no exchange".
 

Angry CT Guy

Posted by an unregistered user
I am a dealer, and that's why I know so much about the inner workings of a CTC store. I only got involved because much of the information given by posters such as DavidLer is simply not true, but his interpretation. That's why he can't list any lawsuits against Canadian Tire's "illegal" return policy....it's simple....it's not illegal.
There are actually some half decent complaints on this site that I use to ensure my employees don't go down the same path, but when info is given that just doesn't ring true, even from a common sense point of view....I like to add some perspective.
 

CT Challenger

New member
Let's do a quick review of the lovely Unregistered, and her recent post (i.e. those not under the "CT Me" or "lawguy" names), to see just how truthful she can be.

How about this one, from March 2nd on the EVOLVE TREADMILL thread:

...nor do I even work for Canadian tire.

But then today we read:

I am a dealer

She lies.

She's a CT employee.

Pretty much the same difference, don't you agree?

Just one more piece of Bull Shit to add to the growing pile spouted by CT ME, LawGuy and Unregistered (who all appear to be the one and the same).
 
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Smart Consumer

Guest
i called a local canadian tire, said that i'd purchased a....wait for it....simoniz electric pressure washer and needed the warranty details faxed to my office. they did so right away. here's the very first line in the document further proof that your claim of zero help, zero return as soon as you pay is what i like to call......wrong.

So, help us unravel your web of lies.

Since you have finally confessed to actually working for Canadian Tire (one of your longer-running lie, I think), we must revisit your relevant claims.

Did you actually telephone another store and lie to them about purchasing a pressure washer?

Or, did you lie to us when you said you telephoned another store? (Because, after all, you are a dealer at a store, so you would not need to call anyone.)

Also, why did you ask for a warranty for an electric pressure washer? Surely you knew that they did not have the "Repair Only" (no refund, no exchange) policy. Did you pick these in an attempt to deceive readers who would not spot the difference?

Were you, in essense, lying to the readers on this forum? (By pretending that there isn't a no-refund/no-exchange policy for pressure washers, when in fact there is such a policy, but for gas-powered washers?)

How about your lie about DavidLer? You claimed that he was wrong (by pretending he was describing only electric washers) when all along he was right about some pressure washers. A fact you chose to conceal. To advance another of your lies.

Please help us decipher your web of lies.

On second though, don't bother.

It's quicker to just disregard every self-serving statement you've written.
 

HandyMan

New member
aint hard ta spot the posts whats got lies innum.

just look fer the names lawguy, or that unregistered fella likes to use lotsa dots, like this here .......

acts like he just wants to set the record strait for the better good of all concerned.

turns out he, maybe she, just wants ta rake in more cash at the till.
 

Guest-0276

Posted by an unregistered user
A CT dealer lying, there's a surprise. Their stores suck so bad that they have to lie about how good they are. Next thing you'll know they'll start selling defective bikes to kids, start ripping off seniors who bring their cars in, and have a sale on defective pressure washers. There's no telling how low they will go. Looks like CT Me's split into lawguy and unregistered.
 

CT Challenger

New member
So, help us unravel your web of lies.

On second though, don't bother.

It's quicker to just disregard every self-serving statement you've written.

I think the original message was actually posted by lawguy, even though he/she used the name Unregistered.

I saw a similar clarification over on the Evolve Treadmill thread.

On the other hand, lawguy seems to be a liar as well - just not as busy.

For instance, why did LawGuy ask for the warranty on an electric pressure washer?

There was no mention of electric vs. gas in the "Simoniz Scam" or "CT Doesn't Honor" thread, except regarding snow blowers. In the Evolve Treadmill thread, it was Unregistered and lawguy who first mentioned electric.

So, why DID lawguy decide to pretend that DavidLer had claimed that electric pressure washers had the horrid "repair only" policy?

Why tell a lie that could be so easily disproven?

Besides, it was the original posters who claimed that their washers were subject to the "policy", in the "Simoniz Scam" thread. Not even in the Evolve Treadmill thread, to which lawguy was replying.

Should we instead start calling him "LieGuy"?
 

Guest-0276

Posted by an unregistered user
I am a dealer, and that's why I know so much about the inner workings of a CTC store. I only got involved because much of the information given by posters such as DavidLer is simply not true, but his interpretation. That's why he can't list any lawsuits against Canadian Tire's "illegal" return policy....it's simple....it's not illegal.
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Hey shit for brains cockaroach. Care to make a large bet on that one?
 

Angry CT Guy

Posted by an unregistered user
Wow, I posted twice and now I'm every poster. Me thinks this board has become a haven for the crazed. With that, I'm out. I'll leave it to the "experts" to right the wrongs of the world, however misguided their efforts appear to be. Just remember this, if what you say is true, then I should be worried. I gave you reasons why I'm not. The posts I've read are inaccurate, one-sided, and untrue. If you don't believe me, then sue. Like I said, not worried.
 

CT Challenger

New member
Of Unregistered's numerous and persistent lies, the biggest lie is surely the oft-stated claim that the CPA doesn't allow a customer to cancel the agreement and get a refund for a defective product.

Perhaps the second-biggest lie is this:

nor do I even work for Canadian tire.

This was inevitably followed by the unsurprising confession:

I am a dealer

Not only does Unregistered tell lies, but he/she lies about others lying, all the while trying to take the moral high ground:

How about at least being truthful.

be at least truthful or accurate at least.

I'm not sure if you were aware of this, but people lie. I believe that a lot of people on this site lie …

But here’s the most ironic statement of all:

for those of you really interested in the truth....just ask your retailer ...

Oh, for sure, Unregistered/CT-Me. That's the FIRST place I'll turn to for "the truth"!

In the words of CT Me, “LOL hilarious”!
 

Guest-0276

Posted by an unregistered user
Haha......look who's back, and off his meds


Awww don't run away again mr CT Dealer/ lawguy/ whatever the fuck you call yourselves. Isn't this the 4th or 5th time you've been challenged on your lies and you've run away. You're shooting your mouth off again and have nothing to back it up.I'd like to see you do that in any bar on a friday night. On the spot truth would be served free to the deserving likes of you.

So typical of CT. You bully people from making rightful returns and then it's "a big misunderstanding" when people like me take out the big stick.

It's simple really. If you're so sure of your statement then back it up with cash.
 
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Smart Consumer

Guest
no different then an automobile repair... it goes in, see you in a day or two, its repaired, you found another way to work or school or what have you.

The topic is a brand new, out-of-the-box, dead-on-arrival item.

To use your analogy, imagine a person who buys a brand new car so that they can go on a long road trip. The day of their planned departure, they arrive at the dealer, hop in their new car …. and it won't even start.

A few calls to the manufacturer confirms a manfacturing defect, and it needs a major repair before it will even run. Maybe it needs a whole new engine.

Will the dealer let the customer trade the dead car for an identical one that actually works, so they can take their trip?

Nope.

Can the dealer at least give the customer a loaner car, while this one gets fixed?

Nope.

Can the customer get their money back so they can buy a car from a dealer that doesn't sell junk, and stands behind their product?

Nope.

The dealer simply says, "There's an auto shop just down the road. We'll be glad to let you use our phone to call a tow truck. It's a standard business practice. Don't forget to make your loan payments on time".

How long do you think that dealer would stay in business.

"no different then an automobile repair"?

It's very, very different.

And I suspect you knew that when you tried to reframe the discussion in a way you like better.

Liarguy
 

CT Challenger

New member
same deal if its home depot item or wherever. the repair is the warranty.

LiarGuy:

Where's your proof that Home Depot has a policy to refuse refunds and exchanges for things like pressure washers? Or even lawn mowers or snow blowers?

A good starting point might be their web site, which describes a 90-day return policy, which is here:

Return Policy | Home Depot Canada

Show us some proof, for a change.

And please ... no more endless links to manufacturer's warranties.

We are talking store policy, here. Something even Unregistered seemed to have figured out, eventually.

Or you could just admit what we already know: that you are lying.

Just like Unregistered had the courage to admit.

Or are you more cowardly than he/she?
 
S

Smart Consumer

Guest
Upon relection, I think I find Unregistered's hypocrisy more abhorrent than any of the individual lies.

He/She has been making up stories about others having "alterior" motives of personal profit. Including Ellen Roseman.

Then it turns out that Unregistered was just trying to line his/her own pockets, at the expense of the customers he/she claims to be trying to "help", by tricking them into leaving their money with Crappy Tire.

It's disgusting.

At least CT Me and CT Manager are up-front about who they are.
 

Guest-0276

Posted by an unregistered user
Handyguy, that's not what's being said at all....doesn't appear you are comprehending the conversation and not making a whole lot of sense either.

Ain't it strange to you that most people can read and think for themselves and don't need no idjit retailer to tell them what to think. Plain to me you don't like the truth out there and need to pull the wool over my eyes. Simoniz don't make quality and Crappy tires don't stand behind anything it sells. Plain as day you'd steal from my wallet than earn your way in this world.

Your store ain't worth a look to me no more. Get out of Alberta and back to that mudhole Toronto where you from.
 

Guest-0276

Posted by an unregistered user
for them CT gypsies who are the parasites of society

Leviticus 19:11

“You shall not steal; you shall not deal falsely; you shall not lie to one another.
 

Angry CT Guy

Posted by an unregistered user
Spoiler alert......DavidLer, Handyguy, and several unregistered posters are the same person....trying to make it look like there is support for their "version" of the truth, which is NOT the truth, by the way. At the top of the forum, on the far right side is a link for DONATIONS.....I think DavidLer is actually the administrator of this site, looking to suck others into donating to keep his blog site alive. Too bad he is full of shit in his various incarnations and characters. Also, answer the dealer dude's question about why no one has sued Canadian tire for their policies.
 
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