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    Re: "Repair Only Warranty" - No Refund, No Exchange

    Now you want me to do your research for you? the very thing you hate so much

    I don't think so. Read the act, you'll see the section about warranties

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    Re: "Repair Only Warranty" - No Refund, No Exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Read the act, you'll see the section about warranties
    BZZZZZT!

    Wrong, guess again!

    Yes, the self-appointed CT Rep completely missed the mark on the very first try, LOL!

    I guess they might have to actually read the damn thing to see that there's no "Warranty" section, except for 63 "Warranty for vehicles".

    Are the "very versed" and "quite versed" self-proclaimed experts at CT saying that everything they sell now falls under a "vehicle" warranty? I sure hope they arent' THAT desperate!

    LOL Hilarious!

    Let's see if they take another shot at it, or actually admit defeat ....

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    Re: "Repair Only Warranty" - No Refund, No Exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by CTH8R View Post
    BZZZZZT!

    Wrong, guess again!

    Yes, the self-appointed CT Rep completely missed the mark on the very first try, LOL!

    I guess they might have to actually read the damn thing to see that there's no "Warranty" section, except for 63 "Warranty for vehicles".

    Are the "very versed" and "quite versed" self-proclaimed experts at CT saying that everything they sell now falls under a "vehicle" warranty? I sure hope they arent' THAT desperate!

    LOL Hilarious!

    Let's see if they take another shot at it, or actually admit defeat ....
    By all means consumers, call the Ministry of Consumer affairs....they will help you decipher the act, your rights and the laws that apply. No need to listen to amateur faker advocates that are quick to say they are not lawyers or experts.....find out from those that will do more than state their opinion or wishes.
    I wonder why there are no examples of CT or any other retailer having an illegal policy? The proper ministry for your province will explain why not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Well, the self-appointed CT Reps (assuming there are more than one of them) are suddenly all the way up to DEFCON 1, with their lie machine back at full speed.

    Apparently this is simply because a CT Rep finally agreed that “against a law, is illegal” – something everybody knows already, LOL.

    I guess the down-side for them is, they can no longer pretend that an actual court case is needed, before a consumer can be justified say that the dreaded "Repair Only Warranty" is "illegal" (i.e., against a law - the CPA to be specific).

    So in response to this minor set-back the CT Liars are once again re-posting many of their favourite lies (most previously recorded at "https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/ge...lies-here.html"), plus a few new lies for good measure:

    - The lie that consumers who post here are “faker advocates” (even though CT’s Jumpstart site also falls under the CT Rep’s definition of “faker advocate”, due to the “donate” button. And has anyone noticed Jumpstart needs you credit card info?)

    - The lie that says the posts with links to reliable consumer web sites, are really only posts with consumers’ “opinions” (even though those opinions are those of the reliable sources, such as low professors and lawyers).

    - Phoney stories about calls to the Consumer’s Ministry, with fake reports that the the Ministry will side with retailers who don’t follow the law. Hah! Call for yourself, consumers!

    - The lie that the SGA and CPA don’t allow a consumer to refuse a repair, and don't allow a consumer to insist on a refund or an exchange, if the consumer wants (see the thread "https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/ge....html#post3613"

    - The lie that other major retailer also have a “repair only” (or similar) policy, and will also have a policy to never give a refund, and to never replace a defective product (disproven on this thread).

    - The lie that the SGA or CPA discuss manufacturers’ warranties (no, the law is only about the implied warranty that the retailer is responsible for).

    It’s also the habit of the self-appointed CT Rep, when they run out of lies to tell, they post pointless insults - generally making fun of the mentally ill.

    Truly, it doesn't take much, to set them off again, on another lying spree.

    But it's hard not to notice that they've brought forth not one scrap of new evidence.

    They haven't even bothered to trot out that one, lonely site with outdated information, LOL.

    Yes, just the same old made up crap, still with nothing to back it up. Just a lot of self-serving opinion, and mis-interpretation.

    They really do seem desperate to convince us to abandon our rights as consumers.
    The ranting and ravings of the mentally ill....ie DavidLer/unregistered/CTH8er (all the same person) are pretty easy to spot. Kind of like a 5 year old not getting their own way at daycare....."if you don't agree with me, I'll just stamp my feet". I know that customer's that try that approach aren't very successful, nor are most people in this country.

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    Re: "Repair Only Warranty" - No Refund, No Exchange

    Does the self-appointed CT rep offer any evidence (let alone proof) for any of those claims?

    Of course not - why should they start now?

    They just like to post the same unsubstantiated claims, over and over again.

    It must be due to the frustration of losing one argument after another, for months on end.

    All that really matters, though, is that consumers get the information they need to make informed choices.

    Information they continue to get, despite the constant barrage of lies, from someone who keeps saying that this nothing on this site makes no difference at all!

    Apparently, telling lies to consumers is just an amusing pass-time to the self-appointed CT Rep.

    "LOL hilarious" as CT Me used to write.

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    Re: "Repair Only Warranty" - No Refund, No Exchange

    Well, at least there are a few things that the self-appointed CT Rep and consumers all agree on:

    - Consumers should contact their Consumer's Ministry regarding the laws in their province/territory.

    - A policy that is against the law is an illegal policy, because “against a law, is illegal”.

    - An example of a court case against CT (or any other retailer) is not needed, because “the absence of a court case does not render something as legal”.

    - The Ontario Consumer Protection Act is relevant (at least in some ways) to the conduct of Canadian Tire dealers in Ontario.

    - The "Jump Start" site and the "Canadian Tire Sucks" site both have "donate" button, and both ask for credit card information. (However, the self-appointed CT Rep takes this a step further, and declares both sites to be "Faker Advocate" sites - which seems a bit extreme to some consumers).


    But don't let the love-fest start too soon, because a few minor sticking points remain:

    - The self-appointed CT Rep insists that the BBB site with out-dated information, far out-weighs the 16 or so web sites containing expert opinions, saying that consumers are entitled to a refund for defective goods.

    - The self-appointed CT Rep insists that any consumer who quotes the opinions of those 16 experts, are actually only stating the consumer's own, personal "opinion" and "interpretation".

    - The self-appointed CT Rep insists that a manufacturer's "warranty" and a retailer's "return policy" are exactly the same thing.

    - The self-appointed CT Rep insists that every time they phone a Consumer Ministry, the Ministry tells the Rep the exact opposite of what they tell all the consumers who phone.

    - The self-appointed CT Rep thinks that consumers aren't up to the task of "deciphering" the tricky CPA. The CT Rep, though, seems to think that other CT Rep's are "very versed" and "quite versed" in this tasks - despite being publicly spanked several time for obvious blunders.

    - The self-appointed CT Rep wants consumers to think that attempts to assert their rights as consumers, will result in "continued anger and frustration" (but never, ever financial loss for CT).


    Well, I guess that consumers and the self-appointed CT Rep will just have to 'agree to disagree'.

    And consumers will just have to continue persuing their rights without the consent of the self-appointed CT Rep.

    Yes, the love-fest will have to be re-scheduled.

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    Re: "Repair Only Warranty" - No Refund, No Exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Well, at least there are a few things that the self-appointed CT Rep and consumers all agree on:

    - Consumers should contact their Consumer's Ministry regarding the laws in their province/territory.

    - A policy that is against the law is an illegal policy, because “against a law, is illegal”.

    - An example of a court case against CT (or any other retailer) is not needed, because “the absence of a court case does not render something as legal”.

    - The Ontario Consumer Protection Act is relevant (at least in some ways) to the conduct of Canadian Tire dealers in Ontario.

    - The "Jump Start" site and the "Canadian Tire Sucks" site both have "donate" button, and both ask for credit card information. (However, the self-appointed CT Rep takes this a step further, and declares both sites to be "Faker Advocate" sites - which seems a bit extreme to some consumers).


    But don't let the love-fest start too soon, because a few minor sticking points remain:

    - The self-appointed CT Rep insists that the BBB site with out-dated information, far out-weighs the 16 or so web sites containing expert opinions, saying that consumers are entitled to a refund for defective goods.

    - The self-appointed CT Rep insists that any consumer who quotes the opinions of those 16 experts, are actually only stating the consumer's own, personal "opinion" and "interpretation".

    - The self-appointed CT Rep insists that a manufacturer's "warranty" and a retailer's "return policy" are exactly the same thing.

    - The self-appointed CT Rep insists that every time they phone a Consumer Ministry, the Ministry tells the Rep the exact opposite of what they tell all the consumers who phone.

    - The self-appointed CT Rep thinks that consumers aren't up to the task of "deciphering" the tricky CPA. The CT Rep, though, seems to think that other CT Rep's are "very versed" and "quite versed" in this tasks - despite being publicly spanked several time for obvious blunders.

    - The self-appointed CT Rep wants consumers to think that attempts to assert their rights as consumers, will result in "continued anger and frustration" (but never, ever financial loss for CT).


    Well, I guess that consumers and the self-appointed CT Rep will just have to 'agree to disagree'.

    And consumers will just have to continue persuing their rights without the consent of the self-appointed CT Rep.

    Yes, the love-fest will have to be re-scheduled.
    Consumers can surely see the difference between a faker advocate's rantings and ravings....the old phrase..."methinks you doth protest too much" comes to mind. I definitely want consumers to call their provincial ministry for clarification...certainly ends your rantings.
    Yes, you may have to make it in the real world after all faker advocate.

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    Re: "Repair Only Warranty" - No Refund, No Exchange

    Quote Originally Posted by CTH8R View Post
    BZZZZZT!

    Wrong, guess again!

    Yes, the self-appointed CT Rep completely missed the mark on the very first try, LOL!

    I guess they might have to actually read the damn thing to see that there's no "Warranty" section, except for 63 "Warranty for vehicles".

    Are the "very versed" and "quite versed" self-proclaimed experts at CT saying that everything they sell now falls under a "vehicle" warranty? I sure hope they arent' THAT desperate!

    LOL Hilarious!

    Let's see if they take another shot at it, or actually admit defeat ....
    Who is this goober and why does he post nonsense on a consumer website? Annoying!

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    Re: "Repair Only Warranty" - No Refund, No Exchange

    As a consumer, I'm very interested in the accuracy of what the the CT people write on this site.

    There's nothing in the 2002 version of the CPA about the warranty the manufacturers offer.

    Instead, it's about the retailer's responsibility for an implied warranty.

    I find it very suspicous that someone posing as a consumer is complaining on this site about about what other consumers are writing.

    If a consumer wants to have a little fun at the expense of the CT people who wrote some untruths about the topic under discussion, I don't see how that makes anyone a "goober".

    Whats really annoying are all the insults the CT people direct at consumers. Like this goober comment, and all the "mental illness" insults, which are insensitive and offensive to minorities.

    And its offensive for a CT person to be on here disguised as a consumer. Very offensive. The CT people need to really clean up their act.

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    Re: "Repair Only Warranty" - No Refund, No Exchange

    Hey, look! The Jump Start site also has a "Donate" button, and asks for credit card info!

    So, CT is calling themselves "Faker Advocates", too!

    I guess that term just means "Advocate".

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