Thread: Why Do CT Defenders Post So Many Lies Here?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It's so typical of the CT Liar, to continue to dodge and weave, to make unsupported claims, and constantly change their stories.

First, they claimed that they personally donated their own money, writing, “i've donated” and “what CT Dealers do for their community, how much they donate”.

So, their bluff was called, and the CT Liar was asked to provide verifiable evidence that they personally donated their own money to charities.

As usual, they did not provide any evidence to back up that claim. No, instead they once again re-spun their story, now claiming instead that the business made the donations, not themselves. Yes, a very slick maneuver.

Of course, we all know that most major retailers make chartable donations (and also get the corresponding tax breaks). Nothing special there.

What might be convincing, would be a comparison of CT with other retailers, to see if they really are good ‘corporate citizens’, as the saying goes. But has that been shown? Not at all.

Even the events the rep claimed credit for, don’t show the donations from a specific store, but instead lump together donations from varous stores, and even from other sources!

For instance, take the Jumpstart site. It includes donations from the Corporation but also from vendors ... and CT is trying to take credit for that! How much did the store donate? For all we know, it's zero. Zilch.

(Oh – what’s this? A “donate” button on the Jumpstart site! Gee, I guess Jumpstart must be a “faker advocate” site, just like CT Sucks! Who knew! Thanks for the proof!)

I also couldn’t help but notice that the stories the CT rep posted show a lot of ‘double-dipping’. They take credit for donations when the money goes INTO the Jumpstart program, and then take credit a second time, when the Jumpstart money is paid OUT to different causes, like Hurricane Igor and the Christmas fund. Nice trick, CT: taking double credit for donation!

(Hey! Wasn't Igor almost 8 months ago? Doesn't the CT rep have anything from, say, the last 5 or 6 months???)

Let us not forget, despite their claims of personal generosity, what the CT Rep has said about their own world view:

“You better believe it's about making money”

“yah, i'm greedy, I want a lot for myself”

“Yes it's about profit, make no mistake.”

Yes indeed.

Make no mistake.

Yeah, like I'm going to give some unregistered faker Internet advocate my personal information and financial info....1. It's none of hour business, 2. You clearly have mental health issues, 3. You don't understand business. I could go on, but you've proved your irrelevance time and again.
You lose, loser, you lose.

The self-appointed ct rep is such a liar.

No consumers have posted here saying that charities are bad, or that donations are bad.

Yet, they post lie after lie about what consumers have written:

"If you don't see the value and importance of those types of programs, you truly need help."

"You know it takes a real asshole to even attempt to poke holes at ANY charitable contribution … Giving any amount to those less fortunate is an act of kindness. You should be ashamed of yourself. "

"It's a sad state of affairs that you've managed to spin charity into a negative."

Of course, none of that is what the consumers have written.

Study after study has shown that Canadian consumers are very generous with donations of time, money and other resources.

It is deeply offensive for the self-appointed ct rep to come on a pro-consumer site, and post these anti-consumer insults, which have no basis in fact. Yet another way in which CT is alienating the Canadian consumer.

But the generosity of this specific CT rep? Lots and lots of talk, but still not a scrap of evidence that they, personally or corporately, have donated anything to anybody. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Well, the self-appointed rep has stated over and over again that consumers should be providing evidence to back up their claims.

All that was asked of the rep was to back up theirs, but they either can't or won't.

In the absense of any evidence whatsoever, a simple retraction of their claims of personal donations is clearly warranted.

But do we get a retraction, or even an apology for all the insults?

Of course not. Instead, they continue to 'blow their own horn'. Oh, and continue to take credit for the donations of others.

And, of course, more of the inevitable lies and insults directed at ordinary consumers.

Nice job, CT!

Nice job!

The best CT slogan suggestion yet: "Profit Before Truth"

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The self-appointed ct rep is such a liar.

No consumers have posted here saying that charities are bad, or that donations are bad.

Yet, they post lie after lie about what consumers have written:

"If you don't see the value and importance of those types of programs, you truly need help."

"You know it takes a real asshole to even attempt to poke holes at ANY charitable contribution … Giving any amount to those less fortunate is an act of kindness. You should be ashamed of yourself. "

"It's a sad state of affairs that you've managed to spin charity into a negative."

Of course, none of that is what the consumers have written.

Study after study has shown that Canadian consumers are very generous with donations of time, money and other resources.

It is deeply offensive for the self-appointed ct rep to come on a pro-consumer site, and post these anti-consumer insults, which have no basis in fact. Yet another way in which CT is alienating the Canadian consumer.

But the generosity of this specific CT rep? Lots and lots of talk, but still not a scrap of evidence that they, personally or corporately, have donated anything to anybody. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Well, the self-appointed rep has stated over and over again that consumers should be providing evidence to back up their claims.

All that was asked of the rep was to back up theirs, but they either can't or won't.

In the absense of any evidence whatsoever, a simple retraction of their claims of personal donations is clearly warranted.

But do we get a retraction, or even an apology for all the insults?

Of course not. Instead, they continue to 'blow their own horn'. Oh, and continue to take credit for the donations of others.

And, of course, more of the inevitable lies and insults directed at ordinary consumers.

Nice job, CT!

Nice job!

The best CT slogan suggestion yet: "Profit Before Truth"

I guess the faker advocate didn't like being disproven so quickly and easily.....does she need more examples? More links?
Perhaps she would like to provide links to their personal donations and financial information....LOL
It's so easy to call faker advocates on their lies....blinders on and they still can't convince the average Joe....probably because they know how to read. Just for the record, 847 customers today with an average sale of 49.67....do the math on that one loser.

There was also this little chestnut:

“Nobody will ever know it came from us, our name doesn't get attached to anything, we don't want anything back, and we stay out of the recognition portion of anything we give.”

This was followed closely by a link to a typical photo-op of some CT dealers giving their store’s money (not their own money, as the CT Rep pointed out) to local charties.

Now we see even more links to stores where ct clearly wants plenty back.

Yup, CT rep’s can’t even tell the truth about their own donations, LOL!

By the way, still haven't seen any proof from the rep who claimed they had donated.

Consumers either need that, or a retraction.

Don't care much which it is - the self-appointed ct rep can decide for themselves. You are welcome!

Oh, and don't forget to check out Jumpstart - What You Can Do

Take careful note of the "donate" button at the top.

According to the self-appointed ct rep, Crappy Tire must be run by "faker advocates", too!

Way to go, Faker CT Activists!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

There was also this little chestnut:

“Nobody will ever know it came from us, our name doesn't get attached to anything, we don't want anything back, and we stay out of the recognition portion of anything we give.”

This was followed closely by a link to a typical photo-op of some CT dealers giving their store’s money (not their own money, as the CT Rep pointed out) to local charties.

Now we see even more links to stores where ct clearly wants plenty back.

Yup, CT rep’s can’t even tell the truth about their own donations, LOL!

By the way, still haven't seen any proof from the rep who claimed they had donated.

Consumers either need that, or a retraction.

Don't care much which it is - the self-appointed ct rep can decide for themselves. You are welcome!

Oh, and don't forget to check out Jumpstart - What You Can Do

Take careful note of the "donate" button at the top.

According to the self-appointed ct rep, Crappy Tire must be run by "faker advocates", too!

Way to go, Faker CT Activists!

Sad...I guess faker advocate hasn't donated to anything.....no surprise though.....faker advocates don't have any money and hate those that do. Not likely a donater to this site either...not likely an upstanding member of any community...just an anonymous faker advocate, using the internet as a voice they wouldn't have in the real world.....sad

In reviewing the recent posts by the self-appointed CT Rep, we see that mostly they haven't been about to come up with any new lies about laws, other stores, or even CT itself. I guess that's good, but I kind of miss the creative spirit the Rep used to demonstrate.

No, instead all we get are the usual mis-quotes of what consumers have posted, which are so easily dispatched.

It’s notable that CT Rep has begun to put quotation marks around the random sentences they’ve written, and passing this off as quotes from consumers. Really very easy to spot and disprove.

It is also notable that we are seeing a recurrance of the “multi-lie sentence”, which was beginning to look like a bit of a lost “art” (so to speak), but may be making a come-back among CT Reps.

There have also been an unusual number of unsubstantiated claims, lately, from the self-appointed CT rep. Mostly this has been about how personally generious they are, despite there being no evidence offered to establish even $1 of contribution by the rep or their so-called business. This might have to be chalked up as another lie, unless proof is offered, or a retraction is posted.

Finally, there is the issue of web sites that have a "Donate" button. The self-appointed CT Reps has claimed that all such sites are "faker advocate" sites. This include various charited like the autism society, housing advocates, and anti-poverty sites. It also includes the "jump start" site.

Is it fair to say that at least some of these sites are not "faker advocate" sites, so the CT Rep is lying about them?

Or can we simply say that the Jumpstart site falls within the CT Rep's own definition, so Jumpstart is also a "Faker advocate site", and hence the self-appointed CT Rep is also a "Faker Advocate"?

When dealing with the slippery self-appointed CT Rep, sometimes their ethics don't fall cleanly into the "Liar" category.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

In reviewing the recent posts by the self-appointed CT Rep, we see that mostly they haven't been about to come up with any new lies about laws, other stores, or even CT itself. I guess that's good, but I kind of miss the creative spirit the Rep used to demonstrate.

No, instead all we get are the usual mis-quotes of what consumers have posted, which are so easily dispatched.

It’s notable that CT Rep has begun to put quotation marks around the random sentences they’ve written, and passing this off as quotes from consumers. Really very easy to spot and disprove.

It is also notable that we are seeing a recurrance of the “multi-lie sentence”, which was beginning to look like a bit of a lost “art” (so to speak), but may be making a come-back among CT Reps.

There have also been an unusual number of unsubstantiated claims, lately, from the self-appointed CT rep. Mostly this has been about how personally generious they are, despite there being no evidence offered to establish even $1 of contribution by the rep or their so-called business. This might have to be chalked up as another lie, unless proof is offered, or a retraction is posted.

Finally, there is the issue of web sites that have a "Donate" button. The self-appointed CT Reps has claimed that all such sites are "faker advocate" sites. This include various charited like the autism society, housing advocates, and anti-poverty sites. It also includes the "jump start" site.

Is it fair to say that at least some of these sites are not "faker advocate" sites, so the CT Rep is lying about them?

Or can we simply say that the Jumpstart site falls within the CT Rep's own definition, so Jumpstart is also a "Faker advocate site", and hence the self-appointed CT Rep is also a "Faker Advocate"?

When dealing with the slippery self-appointed CT Rep, sometimes their ethics don't fall cleanly into the "Liar" category.

JumpStart a fake site? Classy buddy, you're a real winner still attempting to poke holes in an amazing charitable organization, simply because it's attached to a company you don't like. Should you ever be in need of assistance I hope they send you a brain and a heart to.
PS - read the FAQ's of the JumpStart site - it's called REGISTERED CHARITY.


How's that cure for Polio coming?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

JumpStart a fake site? Classy buddy, you're a real winner still attempting to poke holes in an amazing charitable organization, simply because it's attached to a company you don't like. Should you ever be in need of assistance I hope they send you a brain and a heart to.
PS - read the FAQ's of the JumpStart site - it's called REGISTERED CHARITY.


How's that cure for Polio coming?

I wonder what charity this site supports? I'm thinking donations here and on other sucks.com sites go right in the pocket of Parisi, a known porn peddler. That's probably why faker advocate likes this site so much.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm thinking donations here ... go right in the pocket of Parisi, a known porn peddler.

You "think"?

Does that mean you still haven't got even a tiny bit of evidence for any connecton between Parisi and this site?

After all the bandwidth you've wasted?

Very interesting - might have to be added to the list of CT Lies ....

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I find it fascinating that those who appoint themselves as defenders of Canadian Tire on this site post so many bald-faced lies.

What could their intention be?

Are they simply being argumentative, and like to stir up controversy (tolls)?

Do they think their bogus claims will convince future customers that CT is actually not such a bad store?

Entice form customers to come back?

I wonder if they realize how this only further diminishes the already tarnished image that Canadian Tire has in the marketplace.

I also wonder if they've realized they can't win any debates with the truth, because Canadian Tire really does suck.

Maybe all these false claims are really just a form of confession.

I hear confession is good for the soul.

And those souls need all the help they can get.

maybe they work there
the amount of times I had poor customer service from differant stores from across the GTA to duram region.
the most recent is at the oshawa store @taunton and wilson. I had the warranty paper but not the orignal reciept(mind you the reciept is printed on the warrenty paper and out of the same car for the same car) was told as policy u need it or I'll have to buy a new one, so I bought a new, only to find the reciept a few days later taking it to them asking for a store credit(not a refund) the store refused. Called Customer Rel. and they resloved the issue for the store credit done. The new battery from the time I put it in the car it out putting 11.5 to 10.5 volts to crank the car. That right there is a probelm, the battery should be out putting 12volts when cranking. I took it back and advised the store in oshawa whats going on. They told me its could be my altonator or a short in the wires. I said ok as it is an old car(1986 cutlass 3.8l V6) I left the battery to be charged and went home to see if there was a short. Got the battery back @ 13 volts which it should be at. What did to ensure my car is ok, tested my altonator sent back a recharge upto 15.5volts didnt go below 13volts while running, was pulling about 40-30amps so altonator is fine so far. then check my wires mind u I re did my gounds in my car all of them. I disconntected the pos terminal of the battery put my multimetre in there and had the car door and hood open with the fuse for the light in saw that it was drawing a 11.2amps from the battery then removed the fuse went all the way down to 0amps so wire shorts or wire problems. I advised the service manger Burno what i did and he starting telling me about the batttery acid and how bunch of things that dont matter. I asked if the battery is def. then why is it not handling the load and only sending 11.5-10.5 volts? he didnt answer the question he said as usually well my test says needs a recharge and the manufactor goes by the same tester and they will lose on the cost. So i asked him the same question and added doesnt that mean that the battery is def and should be replaced as ur test is not testing the load? he didnt answer the question n only offered to recharge it or I can bring my car in and they can do the testing and get a read out. So spend more money instead of looking at the mani issue that battery as everything was crossed out and keeps coming to the battery. Manager just repeated himself. I said ok take it charge it and im going to get my money back, he said not refunds, i said you will do it but ill get ur boos to do it. Called custom rel advised that i bought a battery from walmart and car working fine and they said that will refund my money with the reciept from walmart. So to prove a point is that no one needs to lie just because you cannot accept the fact that CND Tire is crappy tire and has shit cx service. I am 27 and been working in service since I was 14 and crappy tire has 1 of the worst cx service in the business along the many other in the list. As a cx today u have to fight for your rights like if a product is listed wrong and its under $10 its free or if its listed wrong over $10 u get a 10 dollar discount. i see it all the time and take advantage of the seller for not having sense why not? They over charge us for everything we even now with our dollar be above US we are always taken of advantage of big big companies time to fight back