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    Rack that up on the lies list
    Since that original post, I personally have requested many times for someone to provide the list of Top 20 Canadian Retailers to prove it even existed. It's since been proven that it DOESN"T exist, and that the report was made up. There is no Top 20 Canadian Retailers report or list. Faker advocate ct hater liar - LIED!
    Nobody ever said we are on the list, because there is no list.

    Nobody took pity on us lol all they did was provide a link to a report of global top retailers, in an attempt to mislead us, and consumers, saying they never claimed it was a Canadian report.

    If taking pity means lying, good luck!
    Holy are you guys ever that thick because it does exist and you CT guys aren't in it lol. See it starts off with a couple of graphs talking about who the market leaders were how it changed in the mid 90's how it affected the incumbent the coach potatoes here who couldn't move fast enough to survive and stats on current market place, depth, what they were 10 - 15 years ago and every year since and what's powering them. Predictions on who will be the next market leaders if the trends continue blah blah blah. How consumer loyalty, consumer perceptions have changed and who'd got it right and who's got it all wrong and what's shaping the next decade in retail space, etc and then to the top 20 ranked by multiple criteria real dry read.So yeah it does exist.

    As for CT franchisee's who keep thinking it's a ruse just like your returns policy, keep making fun of people, keep expanding those stores so that it'll be 5 minutes away instead of the 15, and keep making those acquisitions. .

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    Holy are you guys ever that thick because it does exist and you CT guys aren't in it lol. See it starts off with a couple of graphs talking about who the market leaders were how it changed in the mid 90's how it affected the incumbent the coach potatoes here who couldn't move fast enough to survive and stats on current market place, depth, what they were 10 - 15 years ago and every year since and what's powering them. Predictions on who will be the next market leaders if the trends continue blah blah blah. How consumer loyalty, consumer perceptions have changed and who'd got it right and who's got it all wrong and what's shaping the next decade in retail space, etc and then to the top 20 ranked by multiple criteria real dry read.So yeah it does exist.

    As for CT franchisee's who keep thinking it's a ruse just like your returns policy, keep making fun of people, keep expanding those stores so that it'll be 5 minutes away instead of the 15, and keep making those acquisitions. .
    Late night posts should be disallowed. No sense there that I can understand.

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    Holy are you guys ever that thick because it does exist and you CT guys aren't in it lol. See it starts off with a couple of graphs talking about who the market leaders were how it changed in the mid 90's how it affected the incumbent the coach potatoes here who couldn't move fast enough to survive and stats on current market place, depth, what they were 10 - 15 years ago and every year since and what's powering them. Predictions on who will be the next market leaders if the trends continue blah blah blah. How consumer loyalty, consumer perceptions have changed and who'd got it right and who's got it all wrong and what's shaping the next decade in retail space, etc and then to the top 20 ranked by multiple criteria real dry read.So yeah it does exist.

    As for CT franchisee's who keep thinking it's a ruse just like your returns policy, keep making fun of people, keep expanding those stores so that it'll be 5 minutes away instead of the 15, and keep making those acquisitions. .
    It would be nice to actually have a link to the graph, and know the criteria for the rankings.

    Because rankings by revenue and similar criteria put Crappy Tire in the top 10.

    On the other hand, this topic gave the Crappy People a reason to tell another flurry of lies, and again trash their own credibility. So it was a "win" in that regard.

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    Holy are you guys ever that thick because it does exist and you CT guys aren't in it lol. See it starts off with a couple of graphs talking about who the market leaders were how it changed in the mid 90's how it affected the incumbent the coach potatoes here who couldn't move fast enough to survive and stats on current market place, depth, what they were 10 - 15 years ago and every year since and what's powering them. Predictions on who will be the next market leaders if the trends continue blah blah blah. How consumer loyalty, consumer perceptions have changed and who'd got it right and who's got it all wrong and what's shaping the next decade in retail space, etc and then to the top 20 ranked by multiple criteria real dry read.So yeah it does exist.

    As for CT franchisee's who keep thinking it's a ruse just like your returns policy, keep making fun of people, keep expanding those stores so that it'll be 5 minutes away instead of the 15, and keep making those acquisitions. .
    Wow that's some pretty detailed information for a report you're unable to produce LOL

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    There was a claim about 'How about the CT owners aren't millionaires', and it was "KILLED"?

    Really?

    First of all, what exactly was the claim?

    That not a single CT owners is a millionaire?

    (That would be a risky claim to make: you'd think somebody would have at least inherited some cash ....)

    Was the claim, that fewer than half are millionaires?

    That not quite all are millionaires?

    That there are 1 or 2 that aren't yet millionaires?

    Because, you really can't "kill" a claim without saying what it is, exactly.

    But lets press on.

    So, where's the proof of exactly how many CT owners are millionaires?

    For starters, is there a list of all the owners, along with their net worth? I don't recall seeing one. Please re-post that link - thanks!

    Remember: it has to be a verifiable list from a reputable source.

    You know, unlike those so-called "defect rate" posts, where somebody claiming to represent CT writes, 'Yup, not many o' them there "Simonize" washers come back - maybe, oh, 1 in a hun'red, I 'spect'.

    Looking forward to the abundant and compelling proof that you apparently posted, but I somehow missed.

    Thanks in advance!

    LMAO nice back track Jack (ass)
    For months you call us wannabe millionaires, call us liars, ask for proof and claim CT franchises aren't wealth generators. Over and over and over! NOW - after having been shown a report that shows $600,000 average you're stepping back and adding parameters.... not ALL CT owners are millionaires? how many are billionaires? Verifiable list? - In case you missed the memo, we are all private corporations. only two places have that information, my filing cabinet, and my accountant. Not even the Corporation gets the bank account information of all of its franchisees. So no, the list does not exist... nobody collects it, nobody is entitled to it.

    back pedal much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Verifiable list? - In case you missed the memo, we are all private corporations. only two places have that information, my filing cabinet, and my accountant. Not even the Corporation gets the bank account information of all of its franchisees. So no, the list does not exist... nobody collects it, nobody is entitled to it
    So, you are unwilling to prove your claims.

    That's your call - just retract the claims, and apologize for having called anyone a liar, when you are unable to provide any evidence.

    Thanks you!

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    LMAO nice back track Jack (ass)
    For months you call us wannabe millionaires, call us liars, ask for proof and claim CT franchises aren't wealth generators. Over and over and over! NOW - after having been shown a report that shows $600,000 average you're stepping back and adding parameters.... not ALL CT owners are millionaires? how many are billionaires? Verifiable list? - In case you missed the memo, we are all private corporations. only two places have that information, my filing cabinet, and my accountant. Not even the Corporation gets the bank account information of all of its franchisees. So no, the list does not exist... nobody collects it, nobody is entitled to it.

    back pedal much?

    Back pedaling is your specialty, as you've done it all over this site and others. You blokes back pedaled when you denied that owners never lost money, or that no stores were closed, or that CT garages are open and honest etc. Until a few people posted links and video from credible sources substantiating those claims . What have you shown? An article? Is that all you have just an article saying that somebody saw something? I guess that trumps news reports, hidden cameras, lawsuits, settlements and honoring receipts and store policies, you know, things you tend to ignore and deny when it doesn't go your way.

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    It would be nice to actually have a link to the graph, and know the criteria for the rankings.

    Because rankings by revenue and similar criteria put Crappy Tire in the top 10.

    On the other hand, this topic gave the Crappy People a reason to tell another flurry of lies, and again trash their own credibility. So it was a "win" in that regard.
    These documents I'm referring to are much more than top 20 lists. It's a strategic plan of sorts that takes into account what things are going well with the competition at the time, what isn't and how to replicate those same outcomes in their own stores, an evolving recipe as it were. The list by itself is worthless when it's not actioned properly. Walmart had such a list and executed well - not perfectly. Contrast that to let's say The Hudsons Bay company which was floundering for many years, lead by blundering, incompetent canadians with half assed plans executed half assed. Until it was taken over by NRDC equities and Jeff Sherman cut out all the dead wood and turned it around with recipes in hand.

    So yes the basics of being lean, efficient, green, mixed price points, "touching the customers lives" etc are decades old and may have worked in the past. But it's not enough these days.

    In less than 20 years Canada's already lost 4 major Canadian retailers/ distributors with more companies headed to bankruptcy in these extended lean times.

    As for seeing it the top retailers should already have it, or maybe they just ignored it and think that customers will always be there.

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    These documents I'm referring to are much more than top 20 lists. It's a strategic plan of sorts that takes into account what things are going well with the competition at the time, what isn't and how to replicate those same outcomes in their own stores, an evolving recipe as it were. The list by itself is worthless when it's not actioned properly. Walmart had such a list and executed well - not perfectly. Contrast that to let's say The Hudsons Bay company which was floundering for many years, lead by blundering, incompetent canadians with half assed plans executed half assed. Until it was taken over by NRDC equities and Jeff Sherman cut out all the dead wood and turned it around with recipes in hand.

    So yes the basics of being lean, efficient, green, mixed price points, "touching the customers lives" etc are decades old and may have worked in the past. But it's not enough these days.

    In less than 20 years Canada's already lost 4 major Canadian retailers/ distributors with more companies headed to bankruptcy in these extended lean times.

    As for seeing it the top retailers should already have it, or maybe they just ignored it and think that customers will always be there.
    So now it's not a Top 20 Canadian retailers report anymore ? Now it's some kind of retail overview for the country?
    Please provide this....as your claim of what existed and when keeps changing. It sounds like very interesting information to read. I look forward to it

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    Back pedaling is your specialty, as you've done it all over this site and others. You blokes back pedaled when you denied that owners never lost money, or that no stores were closed, or that CT garages are open and honest etc. Until a few people posted links and video from credible sources substantiating those claims . What have you shown? An article? Is that all you have just an article saying that somebody saw something? I guess that trumps news reports, hidden cameras, lawsuits, settlements and honoring receipts and store policies, you know, things you tend to ignore and deny when it doesn't go your way.
    Here's where I think we are gapped
    The loss incurred by dealers, in the US expansion were those dealers that accepted US franchises either as US citizens or Canadians who moved South. Yes they lost money, lots of it! Those dealers who were not involved, did not lose money and were not impacted.

    As far as closed stores go, they are usually replaced by bigger stores close by. That does not qualify as 'closing stores' lol If we were in the habit of closign stores, our count would be shrinking not growing.

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