I'm sure Jumpstart does some good work.
But that's no excuse for Canadian Tire to steal the tax credits of the generous Canadians who donate.
And after they steal the tax credits, they also steal the credit for the whole donation!
Have they no shame at all?
I don't approve of vulgarity, but I understand the righteous indignation that lead to it.Originally Posted by Trextr
I was really surprised to find out that charities are NOT required to give you a tax receipt, no matter what the amount of the donation is.
Questions and answers
But Canadian Tire should at least be up-front about it, and say, "Would you like to donate to our charity? Canadian Tire won't give you a tax receipt, but we'll tell CRA that we donated the money, so that |WE get a tax credit for YOUR donation".
It'd be great if CRA required charities to issue receipts to the actual donators, and required people to sign over their donation to a third part (the way they do for tuition transfer).
In the meantime, beware of this - it's yet another scam that Crappy Tire will try to pull on Canadian consumers!
Wow. Now i've heard it all. Jumpstart is a scam?
Jumpstart - What is Jumpstart
You know, not liking our products or our prices or warranties or employees or whatever.... but to call a program like JumpStart a SCAM.... that's low for ANYONE!!!
Post on here and tell me that the hundreds of thousands of kids, literally hundreds of thousands of kids got SCAMMED when they got their new hockey equipment or Karate registration or swimming lessons.
Go ahead, report it as a scam....here's how you do it. Right from the CRA website.
15. How do I report charity fraud?
Report fraud to the Canadian Anti-Fraud Call Centre by calling 1-888-495-8501. You can also call the CRA's toll free numbers in Canada: 1-800-267-2384 (English) or 1-888-892-5667 (bilingual).
and then go tell that kid down the street you need his hockey stick back because its evidence, you know proceeds of crime.
WOW....simply WOW!
Nobody said Jumpstart is a scam.
In fact, nobody said anything bad about Jumpstart at all - only good things!
Do you even bother to read what other people write, before you post your drivel?
What a moron you are!
Yup - "wow" pretty much sums it up.
But Crappy Tire? Big-time scammers!
I've noticed a pattern in the posts by Canadian Tire employees.
Whenever they get caught with their pants down, so to speak, they always come up with some diversion, to steer the story away from the embarrassing facts.
This whole "you said Jumpstart is a scam" diversion is just the latest attempt to distract people from the real issue: Canadian Tire taking the (tax) credit for donations made by customers.
A similar thing happened when the Canadian Tire Corporation was convicted of a price fixing conspiracy. The CT poster tried to blame it all on one individual, but the corporation was found guilty.
Lots of other examples on here. Refusing refunds, selling defective products, illegal collection of personal data, incompetent repairs. Giving that kid brain damage. The list of cover-ups is lengthy.
This site seems to have more than its share of dishonest people trying to defend a dishonest company.
Yeah, but nothing prevents a charity from providing a receipt. Nothing at all. Even for $1, they could do it, if they wanted to. Sure, they'd have to write up a slip of paper with the mimimum information on it, but what does that cost? Next to nothing.
However, there is a common practice to only give receipts for donations of over, say, $20 or so. That cuts down on over-head costs. But CRA advises registered charities to give a receipt, in order to encourage donations. Makes sense, when you think about it for a minute.
But we all know the real problem here isn't Jumpstart, despite what The Moaner says.
It's with Crappy Tire saying, "Give your donation to us, and we'll give it to Jumpstart". What Crappy doesn't say is "And we'll use your donation to get a tax credit, then brag about how much money WE donated to Jumpstart".
Shameless, indeed!
Last edited by CT Challenger; May 28th, 2012 at 07:04 AM.
Maybe it's a just a diversion, but for some weird reason the Crappy People want to steer this discussion away from the deplorable actions of Crappy Tire, and off into a side-discussion about the relative merits of Jumpstart as a charity.
Ok, I'll bite!
MoneySense magazine does a ranking of charities every year.
(Being a pro-consumer publication, I'm sure the Crappy People will be unhappy with them - just as they are unhappy about Ellen Roseman's efforts to help consumers).
Anyway, here's the results of the Moneysense charity review from last July:
The 2011 Charity 100: Social Services | Lists | MoneySense
In the "Social Services" category, they gave Jumpstart a "B-".
(Hey, that's a LOT better than the "F" consumers gave Crappy Tire, in the Customer Satisfaction survery done by Marketplace - another pro-consumer organziation the Crappy People hate!)
That puts J/S behind:
- Calgary Inter-Faith Food Bank Society (A-)
- President's Choice Children's Charity (A-)
- War Amps (War Amputations of Canada) (A-)
- Young Life of Canada (A-)
- Second Harvest Food Support Committee (B)
- Tim Horton Childrens Foundation (B+)
But it does put them in a tie with:
- Covenant House Toronto (B-)
... and slightly ahead of:
- Children's Wish Foundation of Canada (C+)
Just something for smart consumers to think about, when deciding which charties to support!
(Personally, I support War Amps and World Vision, among others.)
Now, brace yourselves for more scathing remarks from the Crappy People about Moneysense, Marketplace, Ellen Roseman, and anybody else who supports consumers!
Nobody said Jumpstart was a scam?
I suppose the title of this thread should lead me and others to believe that you support Jumpstart?
and the statement about be aware, it's another scam canadian tire is tryign to pull on canadian consumers is all about the positive results of the charity?
get real
simply put, that's your way of backtracking because you don't have the balls to back up your statement. You can't justify calling it a scam because you know it's not. You FINALLY recognize you've gone too far and that was an example of your blind hate for anythign canadian tire.
get bent you lying pathetic waste.
The Moaner keeps getting publicly spanked, day after day, for the pure drivel they keep posting.
With so much humiliation going' on, I wouldn't be surprised if they just friggin' snapped one day soon, and went ballistic.
Oh-oh!
Looks like today's the day!
ROFLMFAO!!
Well, The Moaner sure does have an active fantasy life, LOL!
They think any discussion about Crappy Tire's misuse of the Jumpstart charity, is proof that we "don't support" Jumpstart.
And Moaner is so easily confused, they think they can make assumptions about consumers views on the "results of the charity".
(Either that, or they are just looking for something to moan about!)
Yes, the Moaner's cranium is so cracked, they think that this somehow proves that consumers think Jumpstart itself is "a scam".
(Huh? It's Crappy Tire that's running the scam, remember?)
But the Moaner's delusions don't stop there. Their busted brain also tell them that "the consumers are backtracking".
And this becomes proof that the consumers "don't have the balls to back up your statement".
But these are statements the consumers never made! WTF???
"You FINALLY recognize you've gone too far"
Really? The consumers have gone too far? Based on a bunch of crap that The Moaner made up? LMAO!
"and that was an example of your blind hate for anythign canadian tire. "
OK, now it's getting REALLY confusing! Are they on a rant about Jumpstart? Or a rant about Canadian Tire?
I think The Moaner's cerebellum is so scrambled, even THEY have lost track of what their complaint is.
It's just so sad, isn't it?
But not entirely unexpected.
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