Thread: What's the Deal with the Owners/Dealers?

I was hoping you might have some deeper knowledge to share. For instance:

Originally Posted by 2013LJM

- How come they are so aggressive with shop-lifters?
- Do they own the inventory in their stores, or does CTC own it?

Theses are related. They do own the stock and it's purchased from CTC.

Yup, I already knew that the stores order items from the CTC distributor, who ships them to the stores.

And from what I've read, the profits on items sold at a CT store are split with the corporation, based on some closely-guarded agreement.

Now, some sources have said that when an item has been shoplifted, the owner still has to give CTC the usual share of the profits, even though the store got no revenue for it. In fact, it sounded as though the owner had to give CTC the full retail price of the stolen item.

Any insights into that?

If so, it would help explain why the CT owner/dealers are much more concerned about shoplifter, compared to others stores. Aggressive chasing events, keeping things locked up, searching bags, etc.

Also, this could relate to why they are so reluctant to give a refund if there's any chance at all that there might possibly maybe been a potential for some kind of fraud or other.

Thanks in Advance!

i agree with h8r you put in an interesting post.theres a couple of questions i have in mind.first of all if what youre saying is true,then youre talking about a 5% profit per item.i used to work in retail and minimum was around 20%....just wondering if youre management or staff....what i do know is if margins are that low your corporation would have gone out of business years ago,because when you add in overheads,wages,insurance etc.a loss would be made on each item.so i personally think youre wrong.
our main gripe on this forum is about the repair only warranty on certain items even when they dont work properly from new.what are your thoughts on that?

The Moaner One has been displaying their own, strange thinking on this site.

Maybe this is just what happens when you 'drink the CT Koolaid'?

Here's a link to a post, about a blogger who's given some thought to The Moaner's view of retailing - with some dire predictions:

https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/ge...html#post10529

mr owner has always been strange.....

Here’s something I’ve read before:

Originally Posted by Owner 1

As I've explained a million times, it's no different then a warranty on an automobile.

Well, maybe not a million times.

But at least twice. Wasn't it once when The Moaner was posting as CT ME, and once again when The Moaner was posting as Lawguy?

In either case, this “dribble” was decisively dismissed long ago – care to review the laws on new vehicle sales again?

Originally Posted by Owner 1

The fact that you do not believe me has zero bearing on anything I do, have done or will do.

Originally Posted by Owner 1

When you have some numbers to substantiate ANY of your claims, let's talk.

Originally Posted by Owner 1

When you've got something provable and concrete that businesses are measured by , the door is open for conversation.

Originally Posted by Owner 1

Did you even read what I posted?

Originally Posted by Owner 1

I absolutely ignore your opinion because it's not even close to accurate.

I guess I should be used to it by now.

But I'm still surprised at how arrogant and self-centered CTMe/Lawguy/Moaner is.

Do they even try to see the word through the eyes of their customers? Nope - just more stuff about how they can't suck, because there are dealers who are making money.

And this stuff about, "Oh, I'm not yet convinced by what consumers post here". As if any of the consumers who regularly post here are trying to convince the Moaner/Owner of anything!

(Of course we do see the occasional newby who thinks their post can somehow touch the conscience of a Moaner/Owner. But that's as naïve as an empassioned plea on www.facebook.com/canadiantire, and accomplishes about as much, too.

And finally, there are these hilarious posts: "Gosh, how come you don't believe my latest round of B.S.? I'm so convincing!"

LMAO! Any iota of credibility has long been dispatched, through the routine posting of clear misrepresentations.

You'd think it'd be obvious by now:

This site is by and for consumers, not owners.

The target audience? Consumers, not owners.

The people we hope to persuade? Consumers (owner seem beyond redemption.)

What kind of information would we want to see from an owner/moaner? Anything that is substantiated, and helpful to consumers!

It's all about perspective - something you won't have, if your head is so far up your own *ss, that you can't see across the Customer Service desk.

So, this Sangria Troll (who seems to be more and more morphing back into his original form of the long-discredited Angry CT Guy), seems to think really highly of this particular forum:

Costco's NEW Return Policy - beyond.ca car forums community for automotive enthusiasts

Interest - I wonder if he misrepresents facts to consumers over there, too?

I wonder if we'll stumble across some posts like, "Gosh, isn't Crappy Tire just the bestest store ever? And yous guy on this auto forum - you should all just take yourn ve-hicles on over theres, for some Class A service and whatnot."

Should be interesting!

Speaking of trolls:

I wonder if CTMe/Lawguy/Moaner will ever get around to telling as all about this wonderful "DOA policy" they claimed existed?

There might be a chance to avoid further humiliation ....

We've been hit with a recent infestation of trolling:

Originally Posted by Sangria5

That is why you do not have many posters on your blog. You lie to people. That IS fraud, what she describes.

Originally Posted by Owner 1

I just want to point out something that is purely awesome! Two of the three of you regulars on here, trying to lure people into the same arguments on Canadian Tire's facebook page. As previously discussed, CTH8R under your own real name, yes I know who you are.... and then a fake created female facebook ID. Attacking people on there who post things that you don't agree with and trying to get discussion going about repair only warranty or "ROW" as you like to call it hahhahaa
Same sh*t you tried to pull on redflagdeals and atleast one other site.

You're a couple of pathetic losers.
Nobody is listening to you on there either.

Remember, brick by brick you're going to take us down hahahahhahaa
how's that going?

Losers

Originally Posted by Owner 1

Long forgotten, yet I've been mentioned in how many posts in the last bunch of weeks? Give me a break


Just thought I'd take a bit of time to address some more misinformation you are spreading in an attempt to continue to portray Canadian Tire in a negative light.

- As noted by a truck driver posting on facebook, that you copied here (ie spreading misinformation) the warehouse does NOT own the inventory. Once it's trucked to a store, the dealer owns it.
- Dealers do not pay Canadian Tire retail price for stolen items. It's not their stock, it's ours. I buy it from them at X cost. If it gets stolen, it's lost at the value I paid for it. A couple of key strokes, I take it out of my stock as stolen, order another one and carry on.


Just carry along, copy and pasting any bit of information you can find on facebook and bring it over here to make your forum seem popular and relevant. Oh and don't forget to paste it into multiple forums so it seems like lots of action is on each thread.
Oh and before I forget, make sure to keep posting on facebook under multiple names, fake and real in the same attempt to slam Canadian Tire.

It's all failing miserably. By the way, just noted an interesting article that your beloved retailer Target got hijacked and had 40 million customers financial information breached, and chose not to notify any consumers right away. Luckily it was in the United States not Canada....but remember, that's the parent company of your beloved red circle! Kind of an indication how much they care about their customers. Looks to me like target got targeted!! BULLSEYE!!!

But really, what purpose could this server the CT'ers?

They might just be overwhelmed with feelings of hostility towards their soon-to-be-ex-customers, which can't be fully vented in their Crappy Stores.

And they often attempt to discredit those who seek merely to 'get the word out' about the terrible goings-on at the local Red Triangle of Crap stores.

But mostly, I think, they just can't stand it, when ordinary consumers get together to spread the truth about their terrible policies, crappy products, rip-off automotive dis-service, and awful customer service.

When people speak out against them, they get all "Rob Ford", and start spouting nonsense, blame others, and try to distract the discussion, often with stories about other retailers ... mostly American, LOL!

Nice try, Crappy People!

LMAO!

Geez, it's like an infection!

Originally Posted by Sangria5

My math might not be perfect, but only a couple of people posting on this blog. My favorite though is the number of reposts from Canadian Tire's facebook page that show up here. Almost up to #400, but that would be less than 1 per store given the over 500 locations. So, I'm thinking that tens of thousands must be satisfied every day and that others are also dissatisfied but do not publicly complain. Perhaps 8hers believes that 100% satisfaction is possible. My point all along is that I have not found any retailer or business that can boast that number.

What would this person waste their time posting such 'dribble'?

Do they really think consumers can't see for themselves how much worse their beloved Red Triangle of Crap stores are, compared to all the other big Canadian retailers?

Do they think they can help out their stores by attacking the consumers who are sharing information and experiences on social media?

they can try all the want to Baffle With B.S., but the facts stand for themselves, regardless of how the Crappy People try to Spin things, Rob Ford style.