Thread: Motomaster Eliminator Life time Guarantee

Originally Posted by CT Challenger

Great! Please post your reference material, so consumers can decide for themselves, if you are telling the truth on this one.

I'm guessing this will turn out like all the other bogus claims by CT-Me/Lawguy - a steamy pile of crap.

Remember how all retailers supposedly had 'the same damn repair only' return policy as Crappy Tire? That was thoroughly disproven.

Then there were claims that there weren't any products with "no warranty" - but even the Crappy People caved in on that one, eventually.

And of course the claim that CPA and SOGA don't apply to Crappy Tire. That was entertaining! There's a pretty long list of sources who say customers are entitled to a refund - but let's pretend there isn't, LOL!

Remember the claim that "the conviction rate is 100%" for returning old items with a new receipt? Still waiting for proof.

Then all the lies about Dick Smyth and Ellen Roseman ... not to mention lies about consumers who post here.

Yup, the list goes on and on.

I couldn't help notice that Why Do CT Defenders Post So Many Lies Here? is about to reach the Top 10 "Most Viewed Threads".

That should tell us something about the reputation of Crappy People, both on this site and in the stores.

Don't forget to peruse the list of charges, convictions, investigations and lawsuits!

Originally Posted by Owner 1

Go find the information yourself.

So, no evidence at all to back your "best in the business" claim, huh?

No data on even ONE competitor?

Yet you claim to "already have" all the data on ALL the competitors?

Gee, what are you hiding, exactly?

Which are the ones that are better than yours?

Yup - sounds like a retraction, then.

When not just come out and say it: "Crappy Tire battery warranties aren't as good as their competitors".

Originally Posted by CT Challenger

When not just come out and say it: "Crappy Tire battery warranties aren't as good as their competitors".

I purchased an Eliminator Ultra flat plate AGM last night, despite having read this thread a few days ago. I know this is an old thread but it was interesting to me so I will add my story to it.

I don't think CT's warranty is inferior to their competitors. It's a bad warranty. I am aware that, even with the proper paper work, I am unlikely to be granted a warranty claim without the encouragement of a small claims court judge.

The reason I am OK with that is because other warranties are just as bad. As best I can tell, the failure ratio of contemporary batteries is in the range of 50% in the first 3 years. Instead of fixing the batteries, retailers are dodging warranties.

It doesn't matter what battery you buy, it will have a high chance of failure. Almost all "new" batteries on any shelf is almost certain to have been recycled 6~15 times by now.

Odyssey builds batteries with new materials, and they are indeed excellent, but who wants to pay for an Odyssey?

The only thing I would slam C-T for is the sales staff robustly endorsing the 5 year full replacement warranty during the browse portion of the purchase and then explaining to me in a low voice that warranty claims will be void with a long shopping list of conditions, including low voltage. I made the clerk speak up so the rest of the line could hear the pre-sale and post-sale change of demeanor. That's pretty greasy but it was just one guy. He was annoyed that I made him test a brand new battery, although he did it, and he was annoyed that I asked him to speak up for the benefit of all; but he did that too.

The guy who started this thread should be delighted he has had 5 new batteries in 22 years. Good for you. You have milked the system. ... but it's hardly a travesty of justice that C-T wants to shake you from the tree. lol!

I'm not concerned about the warranty caveats. I will retain my documentation and if it comes down to it, and it probably will, I will take the matter to small claims court. I read the terms and conditions. I think I'm good there.

Any other vendor would be exactly the same thing.

The only thing I would say to C-T is that it is entirely greasy to loudly preach your 5 year full replacement warranty before purchase and then take an aggressive tone at the till warning customers to not claim for warranty no matter what happens. Yeah, I know people leave them dead, they freeze, and the average member of the public is as civilized as a barn animal but that doesn't make that sort of conduct any less greasy. C-T has been a pretty good company over the years. If you keep the pride and conduct yourselves properly, you will retain the loyalty of guys like me who think you may be a little bit rough around the edges but are a good company that we want to support.


Regards to all,

Tom in Regina