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    Re: Stupid return policy to hide employee theft?

    The CT Owner/Liars don't have much to hang onto in the face overwhelming proof that the CPA exists, applies to retail purchases in Ontario, and requires retailers to get a full, prompt refund for defective goods, if the customer rescinds (cancels) the transaction (consumer agreement), no matter what the store's policy says.

    A large number of reputable web sites clearly state this, and the Act itself says this, for anyone who care to give it a careful reading.

    But the CT Owner/Liars will lose money if the customers they've cheated find out about their right to a refund, and take action. So, they'll say and do anything in their power to protect their illegal practises.

    They dodge, and they weave. They come up with lie after lie, claiming the law doesn't apply to consumers, doesn't apply to retail, doesn't apply to defects, doesn't apply to goods sold in stores.

    What a lot of crap.

    And what have they got, really? Well, there's the out-dated BBB site.

    Oh, and the speculation that the hot-shot CT lawyers must have figured out the law by now, and the store must therefore be in compliance. Nice guess, but flawed logic.

    Plus the speculation that, since nobody has yet posted a nice clear case of a judge ordering CT to provide a refund under the CPA for a defective item, then the law must not apply. Nice guess, but more flawed logic. Plus that isn't proof that there is no such case out there to be found.

    But what would happen if someone found just such a case, and posted all the details here?

    You can bet the Owner/Liars would continue lie, and to dodge and weave, and make excuses as to why this case wasn't really clear, why it doesn't really count, and on and on.

    Really, the bottom line is this:

    If you've been refused a refund for a defective item, contact the Ministry of Consumer Protection at 1-877-665-0662. Fill in the forms, deliver the notice, file the compliant, and hopefully the greedy Owner/Liar will cave in without you having to actually file the small claims case.

    And never, ever buy anything from CT, especially if there's any chance it could be defective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by id troubles View Post
    To all out there, plse take the time to understand what your id means to you and what happends when it's taken from you. I'm not sure if it's a total coincidence or bad luck or what ever but I was a victim of identity theft. I was booking my vacation when I found out that somebody ran up hundreds o f dollars on my credit card. I had been very careful about using my credit card in the first place and kept a zero balance. It wasn't until the bank asked me if I had given out my personal information when I remembered giving my personal identification for a refund on my credit card. Now I can't help but think about it and if it was the reason how they got it in the first place. So please be wary about those places asking for your id for anything. You don't know who's behind the cash register or what they are going to do with it. It's better in your hands than in other peoples.
    I absolutely agree with the statement above. I found myself in the exact situation for a screw driver exchange. People lined up handing their licenses for the kid to copy it to a computer. I can say that everyone had their receipts out. A few people objected to handing out their ID but were asked to leave the store with their item by woman manager. I questioned the need for seeing my drivers licenese at all as I needed to exchange it, she said the same thing to me. I asked her why more than the receipt was needed and she looked at me like I just spit on her. She scowled "Everyday we're losing money to people who borrow items, break them and return them damaged. I'm tired of the fraud!!!". But I showed my screw driver, still in the plastic, untouched, and my receipt. She didn't even look at my reciept and yelled " I don't care. Unless we get your drivers license or whatever you don't get an exchange period.!!!" That carried over quite well to the line up, who were not too impressed with her already. l showed her my drivers license, I have no idea what information of mine she put into the computer. It could be anything really. I got what I needed and left. Now that I'm thinking of it, I should have gone to another store like Lowes and got my tools from there. I know I wouldn't have been accused of fraud or treated rudely . I regret giving them my ID for something so unneccessary or asked for my drivers license. I think it's going to be quite a while before I go back to Canadian Tire again for anything I need.

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    Re: Stupid return policy to hide employee theft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post

    But what would happen if someone found just such a case, and posted all the details here?

    You can bet the Owner/Liars would continue lie, and to dodge and weave, and make excuses as to why this case wasn't really clear, why it doesn't really count, and on and on.
    Yep I done that already when the wannabe lawyer, lawguy through down a challenge that "no retailer was ever sued under CPA and lost" . Well thinking that maybe he was a lawyer I cited two cases for him to look at. Remember what he did? Totally dismissed it and changed the criteria to big name retailers. So, you're right. Why even bother, when they've been proven to be liars and they continue to lie and defend their thieving ways? Look what they said about an owner being criminally fined. They denied it. Look at what they said about CT not paying 'rent'. Denied it. CT, tried not to pay anything at all and that's why it ended up in court and CT obviously lost.

    I'm wondering if denying those returns might add a few points to their bottom line? Somebody else can waste 2 minutes searching the Queens database.

    Look at how they've justified a case with their name all over it 'Resch vs CT'. Seven years of denials, lies, finger pointed to the moon, foot dragging in the hopes of bankrupting the family and making it go away. We're all familiar with that tactic.

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    Re: Stupid return policy to hide employee theft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    The CT Owner/Liars don't have much to hang onto in the face overwhelming proof that the CPA exists, applies to retail purchases in Ontario, and requires retailers to get a full, prompt refund for defective goods, if the customer rescinds (cancels) the transaction (consumer agreement), no matter what the store's policy says.

    A large number of reputable web sites clearly state this, and the Act itself says this, for anyone who care to give it a careful reading.

    But the CT Owner/Liars will lose money if the customers they've cheated find out about their right to a refund, and take action. So, they'll say and do anything in their power to protect their illegal practises.

    They dodge, and they weave. They come up with lie after lie, claiming the law doesn't apply to consumers, doesn't apply to retail, doesn't apply to defects, doesn't apply to goods sold in stores.

    What a lot of crap.

    And what have they got, really? Well, there's the out-dated BBB site.

    Oh, and the speculation that the hot-shot CT lawyers must have figured out the law by now, and the store must therefore be in compliance. Nice guess, but flawed logic.

    Plus the speculation that, since nobody has yet posted a nice clear case of a judge ordering CT to provide a refund under the CPA for a defective item, then the law must not apply. Nice guess, but more flawed logic. Plus that isn't proof that there is no such case out there to be found.

    But what would happen if someone found just such a case, and posted all the details here?

    You can bet the Owner/Liars would continue lie, and to dodge and weave, and make excuses as to why this case wasn't really clear, why it doesn't really count, and on and on.

    Really, the bottom line is this:

    If you've been refused a refund for a defective item, contact the Ministry of Consumer Protection at 1-877-665-0662. Fill in the forms, deliver the notice, file the compliant, and hopefully the greedy Owner/Liar will cave in without you having to actually file the small claims case.

    And never, ever buy anything from CT, especially if there's any chance it could be defective.

    You can't find even one example and the naysayers have flawed logic? Surely their would be even one example. Just one that proved CT has an illegal policy. If no one credible has ever said that CT has an illegal policy, why should we believe yacht boy.

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    Re: Stupid return policy to hide employee theft?

    How come this site, under terms of service, negates its own merchantibility and warranty? How can they do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    How come this site, under terms of service, negates its own merchantibility and warranty?
    What the hell are you talking about?

    This site doesn't even sell products or services - the content is provided for free by anonymous posters, not by the site owners.

    Have you paid for anything you saw here? Did you form a contract with the site owner? Of course not.

    You sound like a complete moron.

    Please do yourself a favour and think before you post such nonsense in the future.

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    Re: Stupid return policy to hide employee theft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    What the hell are you talking about?

    This site doesn't even sell products or services - the content is provided for free by anonymous posters, not by the site owners.

    Have you paid for anything you saw here? Did you form a contract with the site owner? Of course not.

    You sound like a complete moron.

    Please do yourself a favour and think before you post such nonsense in the future.
    Then why might they want my credit card and expiry date. My e-mail address, home address, phone number....it's all under the privacy policy and terms of service. Read it for yourself.

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    Re: Stupid return policy to hide employee theft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    CT dealer pig, you're just beyond stupid. Facts and figures were presented to you but you still ignore them. Which is just as well as you'll be history in a few more years. Ripping off the customer is the first signs the company is in trouble.

    I guess with over 600 sucks.com sites, there will be a lot of businesses that won't be around in a few years...lol.
    I can't seem to find even one legitimate advocate or lawyer that states CT has an illegal policy? Not even one...I wonder why that is?

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    I can't seem to find even one legitimate advocate or lawyer that states CT has an illegal policy? Not even one...I wonder why that is?
    i guess because its self evident that a policy that breaks a law is illegal?

    Duh - get a clue.

    I guess it doesnt matter much what label we give it as long as the customer can be the refund they are entitled to.

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    Re: Stupid return policy to hide employee theft?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    i guess because its self evident that a policy that breaks a law is illegal?

    Duh - get a clue.

    I guess it doesnt matter much what label we give it as long as the customer can be the refund they are entitled to.

    Self-evident? No, there would be proof via judgements, precedent, legitimate advocates challenging CT in a public forum. You can understand the lack of credibility you posess faced with the options available to the general public to challenge anything illegal. Otherwise it's just your opinion not fact.

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