Originally Posted by Unregistered
Charitable vs for profit? There's a difference, you should learn it. Idiot.
Charitable vs for profit? There's a difference, you should learn it. Idiot.
It's pretty funny, when the self-appointed CT Rep's get publicly spanked, yet again.
They like to post lies about consumers, like pretending that they even discussed "charitable" vs. "for-profit". And that consumers don't know the difference.
But no such discusson has taken place.
The self-appointed rep likes to try changing the subject, too.
This time, they are trying to change the discussion of whether Jump Start meets the self-appointed rep's own definition of "faker advocate" (which it does).
Of course, this has nothing to do with "charity" vs. "for-profit". No, it only has to do with the CT rep's own definition from May: is there a "donate" button? (yes, Jump Start has one). Also, is credit card information needed? (Yes, Jump start needs is).
One other CT trick: insulting consumers, when the rep is losing the argument. We see that here, too.
So typical of the self-appointed CT reps.
They already tried this over on the "Why Do CT Defenders Post So Many Lies" thread. Didn't work there, either, though.
Faker advocate hates getting called on his lies every day....he's hoping he can spout his lame ass opinions unquestioned....faker advocates don't like being questioned because their false sense of self-importance is exposed for all to see....sad, really.
Yes, consumers, the self-appointed CT Rep continues to insult us and lie about us, and of course provides no actual evidence - just more lame guesses and unsubstantiated opinion.
You'd think there'd be some actual lies they could point to, and maybe some evidence?
Oh, wait: this is CT, who never bother to back up anything they claim - mainly because it's all just a lot of BS.
Yup, there's nothing about manufacturer's warranties in there at all! For retailers like CT, ther's only the implied warranties that the retailer is responsible for. Like refunds, etc. Oh, and there's some stuff on vehicle repairs, too, but there are other thread here to cover that.
Yes retailers are responsible for warranties. that does NOT mean that they give you your money back because you request it. Warranties include replacement parts, parts and labour for repair or product replacement. Each product is specific as to which .... and it is not the consumers choice. It is the warranty terms that apply at time of purchase. I should beat this into your thick skull with a Simoniz Pressure Washer wand. if you buy something and its warranty is repair only, it gets repaired. That's called warranty. That's called retailer honouring the warranty. That's perfectly legal.
Absolutely. For the implied warranty of quality.
Yes, it does mean exactly that. See the https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/ge....html#post3613 for details, or call your consumer's ministry.
Actually, no. They cover refund or exchange. Other issues relate to manufacturer's warranties, and don't apply to retail goods. See the SOG thread for details.
Actually, no. The law is the same for all retail product. Sorry.
Actually, no. Consumer's choice. Sorry again.
If by "warranty", CT means the implied warranty from the SGA, then yes. Otherwise, no.
Actually, the CT person should do some research, and correct their statements.
Actually, no. There is no such thing in the SGA or CPA abouyt "repair" for retail goods. Refund or exchange - customer's choice.
If by "warranty", the CT people mean the implied warranty from the SGA, then yes. Otherwise, no.
Agreed, nothing illegal about honouring the warranty.
But, the retailer has to also honour the implied warranty as stated in the SGA and CPA, which includes refund or (if the customer agrees) exchange. Sorry, nothing in there about repair of retail goods.
Consumers should be consider checking out https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/ge....html#post3613 for details, or call your consumer's ministry.
Thank you.
Yes, consumers, retailers are responsible for both the manufacturer's warranty, and the implied warranty under the SGA and CPA.
Actually, it does indeed mean your money back, if you request it.
Actually, that's not true for the implied warranty. Nothing in the laws about parts or repairs in the implied warranty. Only refund (or exchange, if the consumer chooses).
Actually, the same law applies to all retail products. Nothing in the laws for specific products (but motor vehicles have specific laws).
Actually, it is the consumer's choice.
By law, this must include the implied warranty, too.
No need. People just need to read the laws and all the reference already provided, plus contact the Ministry. Then, post some corrections. Thanks!
But, if someone happens to find some verifiable evidence to stack against all the experts and the advice of the Ministry, feel free to post it. However, mere opinions and guesses without substantiation are not very persuasive to consumers.
The "implied" warranty has no such thing as a "repair only" return policy. The SGA and CPA say refund, or (if the consumer so chooses), exchange. Sorry, no "repair" in the laws for defective retail goods.
Yes, the retailer must honour the implied warranty given under the law.
Regarding the manufacturer's warranty, nothing is stated in the laws (sorry - see earlier postings on this topic).
Yes, manufacturer's warranties are perfectly legal to offer.
However, the implied warranty must by law also be honoured, including refunds (or exchanges, if the consumer chooses).
Be sure to check out https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/ge....html#post3613 for more details, or contact your consumer’s ministry.
Yes, consumers, retailers are responsible for both the manufacturer's warranty, and the implied warranty under the SGA and CPA.
Actually, the laws do mean your money back, if you request it.
There's nothing in the laws about parts or repairs in the implied warranty. Only refund (or exchange, if the consumer chooses).
Actually, the same law applies to all retail products. Nothing in the laws for specific products (but motor vehicles have specific laws).
By law, the retailers must abide by the implied warranty, too.
No need for anyone to mention violence. People just need to read the laws and all the reference already provided, plus contact the Ministry. Then, post some corrections. Thanks!
But, if someone happens to find some verifiable evidence to stack against all the experts and the advice of the Ministry, feel free to post it. However, mere opinions and guesses without substantiation are not very persuasive to consumers.
The "implied" warranty has no such thing as a "repair only" return policy. The SGA and CPA say refund, or (if the consumer so chooses), exchange. Sorry, no "repair" in the laws for defective retail goods.
Regarding the manufacturer's warranty, nothing is stated in the laws (sorry - see earlier postings on this topic).
Yes, manufacturer's warranties are perfectly legal to offer.
However, the implied warranty must by law also be honoured, including refunds (or exchanges, if the consumer chooses).
Be sure to check out https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/ge....html#post3613 for more details, or contact your consumer’s ministry.
Sure, manufacturer's warranties are ok, and they are common knowledge – most people have seen those sheets that come in the box with new products.
But the important thing for consumers to know about, is the “implied” warranty that the retailers are required by law to provide to consumers, in places like Ontario. This is where the SGA and CPA come in.
(Those laws don’t describe the manufacturer’s warranty at all, and don’t mention repair or spare parts, etc., for retail goods).
Absolutely, those laws require a retailer to provide a refund, or at least an exchange (if the customer is willing to settle for one).
No way does a consumer need to settle for a repair.
Oh, and there isn’t a different type of implied warranty for every product – just the general law for consumer goods (but motor vehicles have specific laws).
Well, now, there’s no need for the CT Rep to threaten violence, LOL.
(But it seem strange that the CT Rep won't even discuss the implied warranty!)
No, the Rep doesn't need violence. All they need to do is just educate themselves, the same way the consumers do: a little research into the laws, maybe call the Ministry.
This post is a good starting point:
https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/ge....html#post3166
Don’t forget: 2 types of warranties on all consumer goods:
- Manufacturer’s warranty, which is provided by the manufacturer.
- Implies warranty, which is provided by the retailer.
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