Collecting ID and Personal Information

[CT Challenger]

Seems to me that a "recommendation" from the privacy commissioner in one province to Crappy Tire is not even close to a guarantee that Crappy Tire has done anything at all to change their computer system.

Even if they stopped showing a field for entry of driver's license info on the screen, that doesn't mean that it couldn't still be scanned using a card reader, and stored without being displayed on the screen. Besides, clerks can just write down the driver's license number of a paper form for retention, and it could easily be manually entered into a database later.

We still read reports here and elsewhere of customers having additional information being recorded, and not simply viewed and confirmed without being recorded.

The only way to know your information is safe, is to prevent it from being recorded in any manner.

 

[Angry CT Guy]

Seems to me that a "recommendation" from the privacy commissioner in one province to Crappy Tire is not even close to a guarantee that Crappy Tire has done anything at all to change their computer system.

Even if they stopped showing a field for entry of driver's license info on the screen, that doesn't mean that it couldn't still be scanned using a card reader, and stored without being displayed on the screen. Besides, clerks can just write down the driver's license number of a paper form for retention, and it could easily be manually entered into a database later.

We still read reports here and elsewhere of customers having additional information being recorded, and not simply viewed and confirmed without being recorded.

The only way to know your information is safe, is to prevent it from being recorded in any manner.

Better call Jesse Ventura

 

[CT Challenger]

Better call Jesse Ventura

Don't think he'd be interested, unless the Crappy People are thinking that consumers are conspiring against them, LOL.

But CBS and W5 sure are interested.

So is Ellen Roseman: How to get a refund from Canadian Tire - moneyville.ca Blogs

Gee, maybe the media IS conspiring against Crappy Tire!

Be sure and let us know what Jessie says ...

 

[CT Challenger]

Typical confusion by Crappy People on ordinary English usage.

It's not really a 'conpiracy', if its a well-known group that openly meets to plan coordinated activities, LOL!

Just like a 'depection' is not automatically also a 'fraud'.

Or how a 'warranty' isn't a 'return policy'.

So many of examples of CT New Speak, it's hard to keep track.

 

[CT Challenger]

Typical confusion by Crappy People on ordinary English usage.

It's not really a 'conpiracy', if its a well-known group that openly meets to plan coordinated activities, LOL!

Just like a 'depection' is not automatically also a 'fraud'.

Or how a 'warranty' isn't a 'return policy'.

So many of examples of CT New Speak, it's hard to keep track.

i like how they write 'faker advocate' when they really mean 'consumer'

or 'truth' when they are telling lies

'lies' when consumers write the truth

 

[Angry CT Guy]

Typical confusion by Crappy People on ordinary English usage.

It's not really a 'conpiracy', if its a well-known group that openly meets to plan coordinated activities, LOL!

Just like a 'depection' is not automatically also a 'fraud'.

Or how a 'warranty' isn't a 'return policy'.

So many of examples of CT New Speak, it's hard to keep track.

Now deception isn't "automatically" fraud, before it wasn't fraud at all. I guess faker advocates would like to write and interpret their own rules and laws.....but no such luck.....maybe in Somalia.....LMAO!

 

[Angry CT Guy]

i like how they write 'faker advocate' when they really mean 'consumer'

or 'truth' when they are telling lies

'lies' when consumers write the truth

Super belly laugh at faker advocate. They aren't kidnapping people for ransom in Somalia....it's just entrepreneurship!
Silly faker advocate, Trix are for kids.

 

[Guest-0276]

Super belly laugh at faker advocate. They aren't kidnapping people for ransom in Somalia....it's just entrepreneurship!
Silly faker advocate, Trix are for kids.

The difference between you and the pirates is that they actually honor their agreements. Thanks for bringing it up lol.

 

[CT Challenger]

Now deception isn't "automatically" fraud, before it wasn't fraud at all. I guess faker advocates would like to write and interpret their own rules and laws.....but no such luck.....maybe in Somalia.....LMAO!

Typical CT lie. Back to his old tricks, I see.

Nobody said that deception wasn't an element of fraud - only that deception by itself does not constitute a crime of fraud. Something that the consumers probably already know.

I guess he thinks he can intimidate customers into foregoing legitimate returns, just to avoid the type of false accusations we see regularly from all the CT Liars both here and in stores.

Nice try, though.

For a long list of common CT lies, check this out: https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/g...y-do-ct-defenders-post-so-many-lies-here.html

 

[Angry CT Guy]

The difference between you and the pirates is that they actually honor their agreements. Thanks for bringing it up lol.

Fortunately for the rest of a civilized society, we just don't see it like you. That's why your a faker advocate, that's why you're irrelevant.

 

[Angry CT Guy]

Typical CT lie. Back to his old tricks, I see.

Nobody said that deception wasn't an element of fraud - only that deception by itself does not constitute a crime of fraud. Something that the consumers probably already know.

I guess he thinks he can intimidate customers into foregoing legitimate returns, just to avoid the type of false accusations we see regularly from all the CT Liars both here and in stores.

Nice try, though.

For a long list of common CT lies, check this out: https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/g...y-do-ct-defenders-post-so-many-lies-here.html

I've provide you with the definition of fraud. I don't see "element" mentioned. Keep on believing that you can make your own interpretations, keep on believing that you are relevant in an educated society. And don't forget to donate to this excellent e-commerce site....the donate button is right at the top, right beside the terms and conditions that state the site won't be responsible for the accuracy of content....LOL. That's right, post any lie you want to believe is the truth!

 

[Angry CT Guy]

By the way, I was down 4.6 % today vs last year, kind of a bummer, but up 2.4% for the week so I'm pretty content. That damn math, damn that math.....LOL

 

[CT Challenger]

The whole 'fraud' debate was lost by the CT Liar back in June on this thread: https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/g...nders-post-so-many-lies-here-24.html#post4625

The definiton the CT Liar posted then included 'elements':

"Fraud must be proved by showing that the defendant's actions involved five separate elements: (1) a false statement of a material fact,(2) knowledge on the part of the defendant that the statement is untrue, (3) intent on the part of the defendant to deceive the alleged victim, (4) justifiable reliance by the alleged victim on the statement, and (5) injury to the alleged victim as a result."

They didn't like losing the debate back then, so are looking for another definition they like better, LOL! A few days ago, it was a lame Wikipedia definition, over on this thread: https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/g...rranty-no-refund-no-exchange-56.html#post5680

Now they are trying another out this thread instead. Good luck with that, LOL!

That reminds me: whatever happened to the proof you were going to provide, of your grandiose claims regarding customers who (allegedly) used a receipt from a new item to return an old, unopened item? I.e:

"I've had several people convicted of both fraud and false pretences. If I catch you even once trying to deceive, the police do come and the conviction rate is 100%"

Also, don't forget to post your evidence that someone posting here did something that meets all five separate elements (especially "injury").

Lookin' forward to it!

(And something releveant to ID and Personal Information might be nice for a change!)

 

[Angry CT Guy]

The whole 'fraud' debate was lost by the CT Liar back in June on this thread: https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/g...nders-post-so-many-lies-here-24.html#post4625

The definiton the CT Liar posted then included 'elements':

"Fraud must be proved by showing that the defendant's actions involved five separate elements: (1) a false statement of a material fact,(2) knowledge on the part of the defendant that the statement is untrue, (3) intent on the part of the defendant to deceive the alleged victim, (4) justifiable reliance by the alleged victim on the statement, and (5) injury to the alleged victim as a result."

They didn't like losing the debate back then, so are looking for another definition they like better, LOL! A few days ago, it was a lame Wikipedia definition, over on this thread: https://www.canadiantiresucks.net/g...rranty-no-refund-no-exchange-56.html#post5680

Now they are trying another out this thread instead. Good luck with that, LOL!

That reminds me: whatever happened to the proof you were going to provide, of your grandiose claims regarding customers who (allegedly) used a receipt from a new item to return an old, unopened item? I.e:

"I've had several people convicted of both fraud and false pretences. If I catch you even once trying to deceive, the police do come and the conviction rate is 100%"

Also, don't forget to post your evidence that someone posting here did something that meets all five separate elements (especially "injury").

Lookin' forward to it!

(And something releveant to ID and Personal Information might be nice for a change!)

Actually, I'd love to give you my examples, but letting some anonymous Internet faker wacko know where I live is out of the question. I mean, we've seen the booze filled tirades and anger management issues, so why chance it. In the mean time, chew on the definition of fraud until you understand it, or until you realize that the majority of this country just doesn't think like you. That's why you're a faker advocate, that's why you're irrelevant, after all. But you already knew that.

 

[CT Challenger]

Actually, I'd love to give you my examples, but letting some anonymous Internet faker wacko know where I live is out of the question. I mean, we've seen the booze filled tirades and anger management issues, so why chance it. In the mean time, chew on the definition of fraud until you understand it, or until you realize that the majority of this country just doesn't think like you. That's why you're a faker advocate, that's why you're irrelevant, after all. But you already knew that.

So, no examples of all these people you say have been convicted of "fraud"?

You know, all the ones who you said were using a receipt from a new item to return an old, unopened item?

Any examples from your store (assuming you have one)? None from any stores at all?

No, I didn't think there would be.

Gee, are you sure that the "conviction rate is 100%"? It sure doesn't sound like it, LOL!

And, still no evidence to support your claim that any deception is 'automatically' a crime of fraud, huh? Also pretty interesting.

Alos, still no evidence that someone posting here did something that meets all five separate elements of fraud (especially "injury"), huh?

Seems you don't have anything to back up your claims at all, LOL!

Well, don't sweat it. Everyone here already knows you're full of crap.

That's why you have to resort to sophmoric taunts about 'mental illness' and 'booze'.

And don't forget to look up the definitoin of "e-commerce" - a site that doesn't sell anything doesn't count, LOL!

Yes, you are turning out to be the only 'faker' here - lots of nutty claims, but no evidence for any of it.

Come back when you've got something relevant to say on the topic of ID and personal information.

Or even of the topic of fraud, which you brought up, by the way.

Or will you just be posting more gibberish about "600 sucks.com sites" and "donate buttons"?

 

[CT Challenger]

So, no examples of all these people you say have been convicted of "fraud"?

You know, all the ones who you said were using a receipt from a new item to return an old, unopened item?

Any examples from your store (assuming you have one)? None from any stores at all?

No, I didn't think there would be.

Gee, are you sure that the "conviction rate is 100%"? It sure doesn't sound like it, LOL!

And, still no evidence to support your claim that any deception is 'automatically' a crime of fraud, huh? Also pretty interesting.

Alos, still no evidence that someone posting here did something that meets all five separate elements of fraud (especially "injury"), huh?

Sure, fraud does happen, and there are stories in newspapers all the time about people being caught. But there's always an 'element of injury'.

I saw a case not long ago where a receipt had been tampered with, for instance.

But when the Crappy People say there's been fraud convictions of constomers who used a receipt from a new item to return an old, unopened item? Not going to happen.

And the claim that the "conviction rate is 100%"? Not even close to realistic, especially if Crappy Tire is calling every inconsequental deceptive a "fraud".

Oh, by the way:

Alberta might be getting tougher on privacy violations - that should make the Crappy People nervous!

Alberta

 

[Angry CT Guy]

Return fraud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here you are late night wacko faker advocate. Keep on spewing your "beliefs". People get to see you for what you really are.....a wacko and a faker, unless of course that was just another booze filled tirade.

 

[Angry CT Guy]

Recognizing Return Fraud - Signs of Fraudulent Activity in Retail

 

[Angry CT Guy]

The Biggest Crime You've Never Heard of -- Return Fraud -- and How the Criminals Do It

So easy to find, but faker advocate thinks it's just not true, because he says so. Yep, faker advocate is just a faker.

That's why there is 600 sucks.com sites and a donate button. That's why his ranting and raving is irrelevant. And that's why he's a wacko.

 

[CT Me / Lawguy]

By the way what is this "mystery machine" that according to ONE customer, and supported by you hater losers, we are swiping your drivers licenses into and magically recording information? My debit machine?

To the best of my knowledge the only places that a drivers license can be swiped or scanned to obtain information are at a casino/gambling facility, and with law enforcement. The little magnetic stripe on your drivers license is not readable through any machine that's in any retail store I guarantee you that.