Angry CT Guy

Posted by an unregistered user
Poor interpretation....that's about saying it is a cadillac and it turns out to be a rust bucket...nice try though.
Wait for it, porno boy, wait for it.
Tick Tock on the real motivation of this site and why they want your credit card info.
 

Angry CT Guy

Posted by an unregistered user
ummm zero, nada, I'm a millionaire, cable puller, lawyer, don't bring any bullets to our toy gun fight, don't pass go, black is white, 50000 refund denialers, 500 denialer temples, that is it, go on meds, you're making us paranoid delusional in our own orewellian happy place.

I'll like your store and like to open up packages to make sure all the parts are there and then leave. And if it's missing a part, not to worry I'll open up another set to complete what was missing from the first set. Although, I don't like your store enough to spend money there.


Not sure what a denialer is, please explain, but more coherently. Thanks
 

CT Challenger

New member
Hey, I found yet another one! Turns out it helps to search for the term "rescind".

"The University of Western Ontario"

"If a vendor sold you a defective product, you can demand your money back. Under the CPA a consumer is entitled to rescind their contract (meaning you get your money back) when goods are represented to be of a particular quality or standard and they are not."

Of course, all the CT Owner/Liars will show up shortly to try to convince everyone that this site isn't correct, either.

So, lets see what the CT Owner/Liars have come up with ...

Poor interpretation....

That's it? That's the best you can do?

Pretend that the lawyers at UWO have a "poor interpretation", just because is shows what a liar you are?

Laughably pathetic.

that's about saying it is a cadillac and it turns out to be a rust bucket...nice try though.

Well, at least you didn't resort to CT-Me's old chestnut about loads of lumber.

You're going to pretend that the only thing that counts as a "product" in all of Ontario is a motor vehicle?

LOL hilarious!

Yeah, I guess all those pressure washers and lawn mowers don't count - sorry, my mistake.

What a riot!

Oh, and the only thing that counts as a "defect" is if it's of the wrong age? Oops - I guess the rest on the English-speaking world needs to adopt your narrow definition of "defect".

Actually, check out Part II, Section 9.1 for a definition of "quality". What a moron!

Hey, what if it's a rust-bucket Cadillac? Did you consider that option?

Oh, wait a second.

I get it.

You've decided to abandon any attempt to form plausible lies, and are working on your new career as a stand-up comic!

It's funny, but I don't think you'll make a living at it.

You'll be better off if you stick to cheating vulnerable customers.
 

DavidLeR

New member
DavidLeR's Top 10 ...

.... Reasons to NOT exercise your legal right under the Ontario Consumer Protection Act of 2002 to rescind a purchase transaction and demand your money back.

(As described at
"Cancelling a Contract - Ministry of Consumer Services" and at "The University of Western Ontario")

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10 – The CT Owner/Liars have gotten used to a pretty swanky lifestyle. How can they keep that up if people like you demand legally required refunds? Please. Show some consideration.

9 – The CPA only applies to some provinces. The odds are it’s not yours. Why sit on the phone with those liars at the Ministry of Consumer Protection (at 1-877-665-0662)? Or read the poor interpretations of law professors?

8 – Despite the lies the faker-advocates have fed you, all the other major Canadian retailers have the same damn policy, so don’t even bother shopping around. Just do what the CT Owner/Liars tell you to. Who’s a Good Customer??? You Are! Yes you ARE! So loyal!

7 – All that stuff about the CPA? It’s just a myth perpetuated by internet pornographers to profit from e-commerce. Or something. I’ll get back to you on that.

6 – CT Owner/Liars make major personal sacrifices, so you should respect that and support their efforts to get rich. It’s called capitalism, and it’s working. Absolutely, you're just a unionist whiner.

5 – You’ll just come back to Crappy Tire next week and buy some other junk. Why waste a trip trying to get a refund, when you'll just give us the money later?

4 – You’re never going to get rich in your dead-end, 9-to-5 loser job. So why not help the honest, hard-working, family-centric, hockey-loving CT Owner/Liars get rich? It’s just sour grapes to not let them.

3 - That b*tch Ellen Roseman just wants to make money off you. Stop buying The Star and reading moneyville.ca. You’re just making her rich, and that’s what she wants. Make no mistake - the Owner/Liars are the only ones who really look out for you.

2 – Yield to the mega-mega awesomeness of The Red Triangle. Yield, I say!

1 – The teenager at Returns will make a face. It’ll be, like, SO TOTALLY embarrassing. Gaaaawd!
 

CT Me / Lawguy

Posted by an unregistered user
speaking of comedy acts.... well that was sad


So as usual, you're missing the point ladies. Nobody is suggesting not to exercise your rights under the CPA, nobody is suggesting that you roll over and take it, keep your defective product etc...
The point was and still is, KNOW what your rights are under the CPA, know your warranties for items you buy, know the returns and exchange policies from where you buy things so that you can exercise the rights that ACTUALLY exist under each, not the rights you want to or think exist. You really do have a lot of rights and entitlements. Some we admit are slightly inconvenient (repairs as a new example haha) but the end result will be what you want it to be, the product working right. Be an educated consumer, not a scrambling around looking for solution after you're unsatisfied. It will help you know exactly what's


ps - your Western Ontario link gave me hilarious belly laugh. Right at the bottom of the link you posted it says this is information posted by students, and if you need legal advice contact a lawyer LOL i'd love to face you in court some day, your research is sad. you'll post anything that has two or three words you think will help your position
 

Guest-0367

Posted by an unregistered user
i dont think the ct liar are morons or jokers

i think they really want customers to be fooled into thinking they have to even care about the warranty, and maybe settle for a repair instead of getting their refund

this site clearly the only resource customers have but its nice that so much information is available in one place

the UWO site isnt the only link we have to go by – lots of others posted here too - its a nice summary though

good thing nobody here is buying into the ct liars who try to take away our right to a refund

the end result will will be a refund if we want one

ct is the only one who tried to take that away

ct liars are just one more way ct sucks
 

Guest-0367

Posted by an unregistered user
i dont think the ct liar are morons or jokers

i think they really want customers to be fooled into thinking they have to even care about the warranty, and maybe settle for a repair instead of getting their refund

I agree. It looks like they are only here to increase their profits by cheating customers. They should be ashamed of themselves!

Glad this site is here for honest advocates to have a voice.

Too bad the Canadian Tire owners abuse this forum by misrepresenting the truth.

At least we get to see their ture colors.

A good warning for the buying public - caveat emptor (latin for "CT Sucks").
 

Guest-0276

Posted by an unregistered user
speaking of comedy acts.... well that was sad

ps - your Western Ontario link gave me hilarious belly laugh. Right at the bottom of the link you posted it says this is information posted by students, and if you need legal advice contact a lawyer LOL i'd love to face you in court some day, your research is sad. you'll post anything that has two or three words you think will help your position

oh no it's lawguy pro cable puller. At least these students are in law school who can recite law that's not found on the back of store specific receipt. Have you even seen the inside of a classroom? Kinda hard to do that when you're actually at the returns desk all day. So far we've discredited everything you've said and now you want an ass whooping in court? LOL hilarious.
 

Guest-0367

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Nobody is suggesting not to exercise your rights under the CPA,

Really? Then I’d like my full and prompt refund for this defective gas-powered pressure washer, please and thank-you!

What’s that? There’s a devious “repair only” warranty? What’s that mean? No refund if it’s defective?

But that’s contrary to the CPA! What about my rights????

nobody is suggesting that you roll over and take it, keep your defective product etc...

Of course not. Any nobody said anything like that. Typical CT lie to distract us.

No, you just want the customer to bear the cost and inconvenience of getting a repair for a piece of junk that you knew had a “horrible” defect rate, and then live with a used/refurbished unit instead of the new unit I paid for.

All so that the store owners can get a little bit richer.

KNOW what your rights are under the CPA

Absolutely, including your right to a refund after you’ve rescinded the agreement/transaction due to a misrepresentation of the goods as being merchantable/non-defective.

know the returns and exchange policies from where you buy things so that you can exercise the rights that ACTUALLY exist under each

Well, the store policies aren’t actually ‘rights’, but it’s good to know them.

For instance, the policies at CT for defective “repair only” items is illegal, according to the CPA. That’s a good thing to know when deciding which store you’ll give your money to.

know your warranties for items you buy

Yeah, sure. Always a good idea.

Also, remember to floss, rotate your tires, and check your downspouts in the fall.

Oh, was the topic defective products?

Well, then, if you made the mistake of shopping at Crappy Tire, you’ll also need to know the in’s and out’s of their devious “repair only” (no refund) policy, and how to use the CPA to get your legally-entitled refund.

You really do have a lot of rights and entitlements.

Yes, including the right to rescind the purchase of a product that has been misrepresented as being of merchantable quality (not defective), and to get a refund.

Some we admit are slightly inconvenient (repairs as a new example haha)

Yeah: inconvenient, and illegal to boot. Thank you, CT!

And who’s “we”? Owner/Liars? Are you confessing to being organized into a collective that coordinate attacks on advocacy sites? Verrry interesting!

but the end result will be what you want it to be, the product working right.

Yup, a refund, and then a wiser purchase of a working unit from a store with better policies. Hurray! Screw You, repair-only!

Be an educated consumer, not a scrambling around looking for solution after you're unsatisfied.

Yes, nobody wants to be “a scrambling around”.

Or should that have been “a-scramblin”?

Anyway, the scramble will be to decipher the cryptic ‘repair only warranty’, and how it's really a policy, and to learn about the CPA, and how CT has an illegal policy to get rich by cheating honest customers.

It will help you know exactly what's

Huh? What's what?

Oh, never mind, it would have just been another lie anyway.
 

Angry CT Guy

Posted by an unregistered user
I agree. It looks like they are only here to increase their profits by cheating customers. They should be ashamed of themselves!

Glad this site is here for honest advocates to have a voice.

Too bad the Canadian Tire owners abuse this forum by misrepresenting the truth.

At least we get to see their ture colors.

A good warning for the buying public - caveat emptor (latin for "CT Sucks").



You're joking right? You do know who owns the rights to the sucks.com franchise? Have you heard of Dan Parisi? Unfortunately, not lots of "donations" and advertising dollars for his business, so he turned a site into pornography and now is going the online gambling route.
HONEST ADVOCATES??? Give me a break. THAT is why you may be asked for your credit card and expiry date, THAT is why there may be other services this site may provide.

Faker advocates trying to prey on two addictions....porno and gambling.....you must be very proud.
 

Angry CT Guy

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oh no it's lawguy pro cable puller. At least these students are in law school who can recite law that's not found on the back of store specific receipt. Have you even seen the inside of a classroom? Kinda hard to do that when you're actually at the returns desk all day. So far we've discredited everything you've said and now you want an ass whooping in court? LOL hilarious.

Actually, it's you and your fake posts and faker advocacy that gets shot down on a regular basis. You continually get called on your lies and deception. You can only post links that DON'T prove your point, yet claim they do. You ignore questions (rhetorical mostly) that PROVE you wrong , over and over.
Real motivation: E-Commerce.....this must be the way to make "real money" for you.
 

Angry CT Guy

Posted by an unregistered user
Really? Then I’d like my full and prompt refund for this defective gas-powered pressure washer, please and thank-you!

What’s that? There’s a devious “repair only” warranty? What’s that mean? No refund if it’s defective?

But that’s contrary to the CPA! What about my rights????



Of course not. Any nobody said anything like that. Typical CT lie to distract us.

No, you just want the customer to bear the cost and inconvenience of getting a repair for a piece of junk that you knew had a “horrible” defect rate, and then live with a used/refurbished unit instead of the new unit I paid for.

All so that the store owners can get a little bit richer.



Absolutely, including your right to a refund after you’ve rescinded the agreement/transaction due to a misrepresentation of the goods as being merchantable/non-defective.



Well, the store policies aren’t actually ‘rights’, but it’s good to know them.

For instance, the policies at CT for defective “repair only” items is illegal, according to the CPA. That’s a good thing to know when deciding which store you’ll give your money to.



Yeah, sure. Always a good idea.

Also, remember to floss, rotate your tires, and check your downspouts in the fall.

Oh, was the topic defective products?

Well, then, if you made the mistake of shopping at Crappy Tire, you’ll also need to know the in’s and out’s of their devious “repair only” (no refund) policy, and how to use the CPA to get your legally-entitled refund.



Yes, including the right to rescind the purchase of a product that has been misrepresented as being of merchantable quality (not defective), and to get a refund.



Yeah: inconvenient, and illegal to boot. Thank you, CT!

And who’s “we”? Owner/Liars? Are you confessing to being organized into a collective that coordinate attacks on advocacy sites? Verrry interesting!



Yup, a refund, and then a wiser purchase of a working unit from a store with better policies. Hurray! Screw You, repair-only!



Yes, nobody wants to be “a scrambling around”.

Or should that have been “a-scramblin”?

Anyway, the scramble will be to decipher the cryptic ‘repair only warranty’, and how it's really a policy, and to learn about the CPA, and how CT has an illegal policy to get rich by cheating honest customers.



Huh? What's what?

Oh, never mind, it would have just been another lie anyway.


Illegal policy? Gee, I can't find one link in all that you've provided that says Canadian Tire has an illegal policy. Not one. Where is this link that mentions CTC by name and this apparent illegal policy??? Do you have anything that shows CTC has been proven in court to have an illegal policy....you know contrary to the CPA rules. Is there any legal judgements against CTC specifically mentioning this illegal policy? I want to read up and know myself that you are correct in your conclusions. Sorry, I just can't take your word for it. I want to see it, in print, with my own eyes.
 

CT Challenger

New member
Well, lots more CT lies being posted tonight.

And we had been making a bit of progress, too, before that.

For a long time LiarGuy was claiming that CT would provide refunds or at least exchanges. Finally he was convinced of how much CT sucks, and stopped trying to defend them.

The CT owner/liars also have quieted down on their claims that all the stores have the same, crappy “repair only” policies to deny refunds. It took a lot of work, though.

It’s encouraging that at least one of the CT owner/liars has conceded that a consumer is entitled to a refund under the CPA, if only for misrepresented vehicles. That’s good news.

And we had seen some actual confessions from some of the O/L's that they were wrong about some stuff.

But, it was sadly short lived.

Now we are back to full-on Liar Mode again.

Plus, we seem to have lost ground on this “warranty” issue, though, and the claims that this is somehow relevant to a store’s refund policy. I thought that was disproven long ago, but now an O/L has resurrected it, just in time for Easter.
 

Angry CT Guy

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Well, lots more CT lies being posted tonight.

And we had been making a bit of progress, too, before that.

For a long time LiarGuy was claiming that CT would provide refunds or at least exchanges. Finally he was convinced of how much CT sucks, and stopped trying to defend them.

The CT owner/liars also have quieted down on their claims that all the stores have the same, crappy “repair only” policies to deny refunds. It took a lot of work, though.

It’s encouraging that at least one of the CT owner/liars has conceded that a consumer is entitled to a refund under the CPA, if only for misrepresented vehicles. That’s good news.

And we had seen some actual confessions from some of the O/L's that they were wrong about some stuff.

But, it was sadly short lived.

Now we are back to full-on Liar Mode again.

Plus, we seem to have lost ground on this “warranty” issue, though, and the claims that this is somehow relevant to a store’s refund policy. I thought that was disproven long ago, but now an O/L has resurrected it, just in time for Easter.


Sorry, CPA doesn't say a refund is the only course for a defect. And again, where are those specific CTC examples of an illegal policy?.....I know how much you like to avoid that question, but give some concrete proof so we can believe you.
 

CT Challenger

New member
Sorry, CPA doesn't say a refund is the only course for a defect. And again, where are those specific CTC examples of an illegal policy?.....I know how much you like to avoid that question, but give some concrete proof so we can believe you.

CT Owner/Liars have already seen all the proof, and it scares them enough that they have to try hard to convince consumers that it's not real.

Too bad it's a done deal, and they will just have to live with it.

Luck for the smart consumers that there are sites like this to spread the word.

All the CT lies in the world can't change the laws. Too bad, so sad.
 

CT Challenger

New member
Sorry, CPA doesn't say a refund is the only course for a defect..

nobody said a refund is the only course for a defect, ct owner/liar.

only that the customer can rescind (cancel) the sales contract (transaction) due to a misrepresentation by the store that the product is of merchantable quality (i.e., the store represented the product as being free of defects).

when the transaction is rescinded the retailer is obligated to refund the customers money.

pretty simple when you think about it for a second and it makes a lot of sense

lots of proof of all this - lots of links provided - only one outdated site says otherwise

ct owner/liar are proven wrong over and over

must just be too greedy to admit it though
 

Angry CT Guy

Posted by an unregistered user
CT Owner/Liars have already seen all the proof, and it scares them enough that they have to try hard to convince consumers that it's not real.

Too bad it's a done deal, and they will just have to live with it.

Luck for the smart consumers that there are sites like this to spread the word.

All the CT lies in the world can't change the laws. Too bad, so sad.


Did you have ANY specific examples against CTC? Or were you just spouting off your opinion again?
Just one...it's all anyone wants....just one specific example that mentions CTC and their illegal policy.....it can't be hard with all your pontificating.
 

Angry CT Guy

Posted by an unregistered user
nobody said a refund is the only course for a defect, ct owner/liar.

only that the customer can rescind (cancel) the sales contract (transaction) due to a misrepresentation by the store that the product is of merchantable quality (i.e., the store represented the product as being free of defects).

when the transaction is rescinded the retailer is obligated to refund the customers money.

pretty simple when you think about it for a second and it makes a lot of sense

lots of proof of all this - lots of links provided - only one outdated site says otherwise

ct owner/liar are proven wrong over and over

must just be too greedy to admit it though



Ahhhh......here we go. Do you have any proof that the Canadian Tire stores have purposefully misrepresented what they were selling....cause you hit the nail on the head with that one....it has to be a deliberate misrepresentation. FINALLY some truth to what the CPA protects you against.
You moron, you don't even realize how much you have damaged your credibility on this joke of an E-Commerce site.
 

Angry CT Guy

Posted by an unregistered user
CT Owner/Liars have already seen all the proof, and it scares them enough that they have to try hard to convince consumers that it's not real.

Too bad it's a done deal, and they will just have to live with it.

Luck for the smart consumers that there are sites like this to spread the word.

All the CT lies in the world can't change the laws. Too bad, so sad.


Sites like this you say. Get an education and find out who runs sites like these. Dan Parisi....known pornographer and online gambling advocate....that's who. Check out this sites privacy statement and terms of service....don't be surprised when you get a link to porno....it's how he made his money.
 
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